If there is pressure, i don’t see it coming from the contract length, when they can be easily extended. It’s probably more to do with giving the draftees a taste at the top level so they can get a feel of the game.
My fear is with a 3 year contract, you’re going to see more JHF types looking to break their contract early trying to leave a team they didn’t want to be drafted to.
My understanding is he copped a trauma to the meniscus.
What’s your knowledge of strengthening a meniscus to resist damage from trauma?
Atm if a players contract is extended that is on the club, they are accepting all the risk, including of a player on their cap who isn’t physically ready to play. If a 3 year deal is mandated, with the first 12 months non playing then that risk is lessened as it is the same for all clubs.
Regarding JHF, I think that is a unique situation. In fact in his circumstance perhaps a mandatory 12 month onboarding may have increased his likelihood of staying for longer at North. Either way the club is required to create the environment to make a player want to stay, that doesn’t change. If the player never wanted to be there then the club gets greater bargaining strength due to the increased length of the deal.
Im not against 3 year deals for first round draftees.
I just think 12 months of not playing at any level is crazy.
would be better off playing in VFL only, or in a under 19 competition.
Certainly that would be the contentious part of it. Luckily I get to make these decisions in my mind without consequences.
Until one day when I take power and all you ■■■■■ will have to deal with my whims.
I would like to see automatic 3 year deals for players picked in the first 2 rounds and 2 year deals for players afterwards.
Team options to extend contracts by an additional 2 years like they do in the NBA would also be a good option
I wouldn’t be against AFL letting some clubs play guys not physically up to it (18-19) in the NAB league either. as a over ager.
So we could have played Munkara in NAB League games this year, when he wasnt ready for VFL games.
I will do that too.
Wow, a fair bit of “Captain Hindsight” happening in this thread all being made by people who have absolutely no idea what S&C program he was on, what injuries he has, how he got them or what S&C program he is on now.
Just because you threw a few weights around and sucked on a protein shake for 6 months when you were 19 doesn’t make you an expert on strength and conditioning.
The club has said they are doing this strengthening program currently to prevent future injuries instead of rushing him back. I’m happy to hear that’s the approach.
I’m 100% happy to admit I’m not an expert here. My logic is that if we are taking players offline for 6 weeks to prevent injuries long term, there’s a valid question that doing this earlier may have prevented the recent injury. Yes, it’s captain hindsight stuff and yes I’m have no expertise and will be not seeing the full picture. But we’ve got 3 of our top pick talents in a rehab and prevention program and I think it’s fair to question if this was more than just bad luck.
I didn’t even do this much. Struggle to lift a broom out of the closet.
Although I did scoff a peanut butter banana smoothie or 2.
Spoken like someone who has never sucked on a protein shake in their entire life.
It’s quite fair to say I’m doing captain hindsight stuff here. But I was worried about Cox and Reid from day 1 and have been really worried about this happening all along. Skinny talls are renowned for these injuries and they were more vulnerable due to the covid year. Tsatas in isolation would feel like bad luck, but combined with our other top talents it feels like a pattern.
Just because the extra stengthening may help prevent reinjury doesnt mean it would have made a difference to the original injury. The strengthening may only be necessary because of the damage done by the original injury.
I just think you’re bringing in a rule that implies clubs can’t be trusted to manage first year players so they are obliged to not play them, even if they are ready to play and the club wants to play them for their development.
If we’re talking about the security the clubs get with regards to player contracts, that didn’t start with JHF and it hasn’t ended with him. He was just a recent notable case. Players have been breaking contracts for a long time, requesting trades. If players really want to leave in the middle of a contract, majority of the time, they go.
True. He might have had a perfectly strengthened leg in the 5 months between his junior injury and his afl preseason.
But forgive me if I don’t trust our S&C team based off recent performances.
My motivation is noble.
I think Coxy will be a gun, he definitely has ‘it’. His first season showed that. Just a question of patience and getting his body right now
Whether or not his leg was strong is irrelevant, he got a knock to the knee in a tackling collision that tore his meniscus, strengthening before that point likely would have made no difference. Its only now that he has a damaged meniscus that its necessary to strengthen it.
That’s not how knee injuries work. The number 1 thing you can do to reduce the risk of a knee injury is to strengthen the muscles around the knee. If you are weak, which is realistically what happens after a long term leg injury, then you are at much higher risk of injuring your knee.
You can get a knee injury after doing all the right things, but the chances are far lower. Strength and risk are linked.