#17 - “Big” Vigo Visentini til 2027

Pretty simple, so long as it is not prohibited contact (high, hold) you can push all you like, so long as you get back to the ball. If you bulldoze an opponent t off the ball and then you don’t get to the ball, that’s a block.

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If both are wrestling it’s play on. If one grabs and the other doesn’t, that’s a hold.

I see him as similar to Bryan before Bryan added a heap of kgs (yes, he’s still no monster but he’s much stronger than when he started). I think he (VV) might end up similarly useful in about 2 years. Hopefully not much longer than that. But really he’s being played early.

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Like that one last night whare they both had there arms around each other, but the umpire paid a free kick against Vigo and the Giants ruck kicked a goal?
(The umpire may have paid it for high contact or something else. Not sure, but it didn’t seem right at the time.)

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He had his right arm and hand over the shoulder, that’s what the ump paid it for.
It was technically there but they only sometimes penalise it. The umps are very inconstant with what they allow and don’t allow and often the players themselves have no idea whose free it is.

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Pretty sure it was paid high, was absurd given the stuff they generally let go when they are wrestling.

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Don’t pretend to understand the ruck rules. No-one does.

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Ruck rules are there are no ruck rules.

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If you can’t have that double action pushing motion in a marking contest (can only hold your ground), it should be the same in a ruck contest.

Until there are.

That definitely used to be the case. Just ask Sean McKernan. There was one game where he gave away 6 or 7 free kicks for blocking. Whether or not the rule has changed, who would know.

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Why can’t you jump and put a knee in the other blokes chest?

Agree, the wrestling sucks.

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Big man will be fine player. Give him couple of preseasons in the weights room

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That’s what I was thinking, but probably get done for “rough conduct”

Might as well get done for that as for the usual penalty, i.e. “wearing an Essendon jumper”

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He’s going to be fine. Even in last night’s slaughter he showed previews of what he will grow in to.

Name another ruck who has impacted under age 23 or so in the modern era?

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Luke Jackson

Forward who rucks. Unicorn type.

Vigo is a run of the mill ruckman.

Grundy

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