#18 Michael Hurley


#9262

And it will change again when Gleeson comes back.


#9263

#9264

Conor , pfft !

Over-rated kick , and may be very lucky to get back into the team.


#9265

Hurls.


#9266

Wha? Hurley is a beautiful user of the ball who clearly has license to take risks kicking out of defense

With the way that modern teams setup (forward press in the main) kicking in the back half is one of the most difficult skills in the game. There is a reason that we are always trying to get the ball into Hurley, Goddard or McKenna’s hands.

The guy has about 20 kicks a game and probably fluffs 3-4 of them. He is a star


#9267

Hurls marking was a lot better on the weekend IMO.

And what I dont get about hurls is that I reckon the majority of his poor kicks come when there is little pressure. Has too much time to think, tries to be too creative/ precise and ■■■■■ it up. Hes at his best when he plays on instinct, under pressure


#9268

He seemed free to roam knowing Hooker was back there setting up and he didn’t have to cover him as much.


#9269

Hurley’s ball drop looks off to me. Havent noticed it in the past (doesnt mean it wasn’t there), but it just looks kinda awkward at the moment.


#9270

I noticed that last year. I think it’s just his style…with dodgy wrists.


#9271

But but , he was running at 75% disposal eff.

I did it for hepps first qtr , a critique of his disposals , and hurley wasnt any better.
Kicks to peoples feet, misses targets by alot, but bombs it to contested marking situations so it doesnt count as an ineffective kick.

Between him, hepp and zaka , you coule account for 60% of our stuff up turnovers. (Rough guess obv)

The rest of his game was good, or at least better , but still at present he can be a momentum killer, and be costing us 2-5 goals a game, just by his poor decision making or skill.


#9272

It’s pleasing to see none of our boys appearing in the top ten.

Players with the most goals kicked on them in 2018

21 – Liam Jones (Carlton)
13 – David Astbury (Richmond)
12 – Steven May (Gold Coast)
12 – Tom Barrass (West Coast)
11 – Jacob Weitering (Carlton)
11 – Connor Blakely (Fremantle)
9 – Tom Clurey (Port Adelaide)
7 -Nathan Brown (St Kilda)
7 -Lynden Dunn (Collingwood)
7 – Jeremy Howe (Collingwood)


#9273

Let’s hope we help those Collingwood lads climb that ladder.


#9274

was rance like, without being a massive cheat


#9275

Hurley is one of my favourite players. He started at Essendon when I started becoming an essendon member. Love watching him play


#9276

So this efficiency, is it really that efficient?
Example.
In the 2nd quarter (?) he was in the middle and kicked in 20m sideways to Myers. However the ball didnt get there on the full, Myers was forced to run back 5m to retrieve it, then had to have a quick kick around to the corner to heppel where it was spoiled and went out of bounds.

It all started from a poor kick by Hurley but it still gets counted as an effective kick. Why?


#9277

So much this. If it goes to a contest it’s also still an effective kick. Hurls should be launching our attacks and that ain’t happening, so many times he takes the defensive rather than the attacking option.

Hurry back Marty.


#9278

Will go the early crow. Top 3 BnF this year. Hopefully


#9279

Ok I’m just going to say it. I don’t love the new Michael Hurley. The pre Worsfold Hurley was my favourite player, a defensive beast with a good counter attack game, the guy would literally rip off his own finger before he was beaten in a one in one. I can only really remember him ever being beaten a few times in his career pre 2017 one notably by Riewoldt in 2014. In the last year and a half he has been beaten by plenty of average footballers and is often hidden away from a forward when looking shaky.
How more effective would our defence be with a pre 2017 Hurley and Hooker back there? Goddard could go back to playing the quarter back role, let’s face it he is a much better kick. The added advantage would also be we would rarely need to worry about playing Brown or Hartley.
I think this new version of Hurley puts the back 6 out of whack, as we are forced to try and play him on the weakest slowest forward and then need to play another tall. I know he was AA last year and he is obviously still a very good player but from a team dynamics perspective I don’t believe we are getting best value with this new model.


#9280

I’m not sure how much of the change to new Hurley from old Hurley is planned, and how much is adapting to circumstances.
Younger defensive Hurley was one of the best defensive spoilers I’ve seen. He was never an outstanding overhead mark, but had to ability to time body on body spoils without conceding free kicks like few others.
Hence he could happily play on key forwards.

Older defensive Hurley may be a result of his ongoing wrist / hand issues.
When he does try and spoil now he’s often swiping at the ball - not meeting it full on with a clenched fist as he used to.
If this is the case, it may have been the trigger to remodel him to use the assets he still has.

On the other hand Younger attacking Hurley tried hard but regularly struggled with knocks and playing through pain.
Older defensive Hurley is enormously better at this, so swings and roundabouts.


#9281

It’s a good point and one I have thought about. I think it also relates to Hooker going forward and him trying to become more of an interceptor.