I didn’t ignore it. If we want to take 4 players in the main draft, then we take 4 players. Your scenario is fine.
If we want to have a small main list and a large rookie list, then the inactive loophole opens up.
We had an expanded rookie list this year. We very well could do the same going into next year.
I reckon it’s a waste of time, and potentially hurts your flexibility going forward as well. If these are players that we really want then we will have had a few opportunities at that point…
I’ll give you a real life example. Kaine Baldwin. We took him as a PSS selection, a year contract to rehab and then an extension for next year. I think there’s pretty universal excitement about what that kid could become.
It’s kinda crazy that no club picked him up in the rookie draft or as a late pick in the main draft. We could have lost that awesome opportunity.
If we’d done the loophole thing with Baldwin, which we 100% could have done, then we would have had an extra rookie spot this year to try out another player.
Didn’t Baldwin scenario only come about due to Hurley injury/infection during preseason?
That’s what opened up another list opportunity IIRC
i understand the concept, but I’d say it’s pretty clear we had no desire to add anyone in those circumstances. Instead we took Gleeson and Clarke in the rookie draft and held over 2 list spots for potential players to add in the SSP period. When we did that we added one guy who wasn’t going to play. We had heaps of opportunities. The guy that you add extra is from the very ends of your list, you are limiting the ability of Baldwin (or Johnston) to play VFL at the back end of the year if their rehab goes well, and you’re making yourself have to cut an extra player at the end of the year to create list spots for the next year, whether it’s the extra rookie you took, the injured player or someone else. Taking the extra main list (even if inactive) likely also has impacts on cap space, and could impact MSD options as well.
It’s a lot of hassle for limited benefit IMO
If available
1.Rachelle
2.Goater
3, NWM
Hurley went on the inactive list mid year, we used his spot for Durham.
It’s a pretty good idea. Gives you a free shot. An example with your premise.
So say last year we had two PSS picks. We use one list spot on Cripp’s brother with our last pick in the rookie draft, who has just done an ACL. Then make him inactive. We still then have two PSS options.
The cost is the $, and medical and coaching staff time. You also can’t play the guy in the VFL when he gets back from injury unless someone else can go inactive. The upside is you get an exclusive look at Cripps when he’s back from injury, and can just extend the contract.
There might also be a cultural impact though if the squad doesn’t like what you’re doing.
Perhaps you are right.
We had a space left for SSP and MSD
Maybe a result of Hurley scenario over preseason however would have been expected another spot would be freed up in MSD so then took a second SSP with Baldwin after already gaining Waterman
I don’t think we’d have gone with Baldwin had the Hurley scenario not unfolded though, otherwise would have been costing ourselves opportunity at MSD
Don’t agree that taking Baldwin on main list would have allowed an extra player, would have meant we missed Brand
You’re spot on that using that loophole would be a hassle. I just think it’s a cunning way to create a bonus list spot out of thin air. We could have tried out an extra rookie this year if we had done that. We could have had an extra small forward or lockdown defender on the list.
Not playing that game has a real cost too.
No. We had a spare spot and Mcquillan left so we had two PSS selections.
I think Mozzie ended up opening up the Baldwin spot. I think we only put the time and effort into him after the draft had finished. We probably didn’t have our head around the risks and his medical condition going into the main draft.
Edit - and/or what @ants said
Ah yes easy to forget him
Of course, between Mozzie and Hurley if there was anyone else we wanted we could have put either/both on the inactive list and taken extra PSS selections.
You’re trouble.
Elijah Tsatas is a special talent for next year
It’s not “an extra list spot” it’s just bringing a list spot forward from next year. You can keep doing it forced as long as there’s always the injured guy that you like, but eventually it disappears
Would you go Sonsie, Sinn or NWM with our pick if they were there?
Sonsie fills a need as a forward half midfielder with good skills be must have said the wrong thing to someone because he (and Sinn) are both plummetting since the Vic season ended