2021 Draft Watch

[THE_DON1]

Sonsie

[THE_DON1]

My profile on Josh Goater

Draft Central

[Heppelltitis]

@Ants

@Heppelltitis

@Benny40

Last pick in the main draft gives you a crack at the player earlier, so less chance of another club picking him. You can then put him on the inactive list to open the same rookie draft or PSS spot.

You are talking about a player unlikely to be drafted. Your words.
So what is the concern, for missing out? But you are giving him a 2 year contract, on extra coin.

You are also essentially taking all of our remaining picks, for the remaining players we want to draft (final ND selection + all rookie selections), later in the draft order (your model compared to mine) and increasing the likelihood another club takes those players. And given we are talking about players the club thinks are likely to be selected in the draft, this is both more likely and more concerning.

Give the bloke with a massive injury question mark a 1 year contract on minimum chips. Achieves the same outcome with reduced risk.

It’s a pretty good idea. Gives you a free shot. An example with your premise.

So say last year we had two PSS picks. We use one list spot on Cripp’s brother with our last pick in the rookie draft, who has just done an ACL. Then make him inactive. We still then have two PSS options.

The cost is the $, and medical and coaching staff time. You also can’t play the guy in the VFL when he gets back from injury unless someone else can go inactive. The upside is you get an exclusive look at Cripps when he’s back from injury, and can just extend the contract.

There might also be a cultural impact though if the squad doesn’t like what you’re doing.

Yep. Exactly.

[Albert_Thurgood]

@SplitRound

@Speedy_Gonzales

Local Calder Cannons kid, 190cm mid with speed & given also previously played as a defender has that defensive nature already there. Still got a lot of growth as a mid it seems as not had much time playing it.

This sounds like what Dodoro’s answer would be to “define your dream draftee profile”. Maybe swap “mid who previously played as a defender” with “defender who has spent time could move to the midfield” and it’d be a perfect match.

EFA

[Clone_Hirdy]

I want to provide some context around how big mids are these days. Even our so called small mids aren’t really that small.

It’s quite remarkable.

John Coleman 185cm
Tony Lockett 191cm
Jason Dunstall 191cm
Doug Wade 188cm
Peter Hudson 188cm
Gary Albert Sr 188cm
Gordon Coventry 183cm
Bob Pratt 180cm
Jack Titus 175cm

Richard Reynolds 179cm
Bill Hutchison 174cm
Albert Thurgood 183cm

[Alan_Noonan_10]

Alan Morrow rucked for St Kilda in the 1966 GF at 181-182cm.

I remember the comments when Des Meagher played on the wing for Hawthorn back in the mid to late 60s. He was about 183cm. Most wingers in those days were less than 178cm. Bruce McMaster-Smith, who played in the ‘65 GF, was about 167cm and 58kg. I’m sure @HarryJay would remember if the old-timers hasn’t kicked in.

[Crod]

I normally get a little bit nervous with ‘utility’ types that come in without a set position…

but I think i’m officially #teamGoater for pick 11. Versatility, athleticism, upside…just sounds like an Essendon pick.

[Henry_s_Angry_Pills]

Paul Salmon 205cm

[Rom]

You just know that Goater, Rachelle & NWM will all be gone by our pick and we will end up going with a skinny 180cm Mid.

[Bomberfrom84]

Are we picking a mid surely dodoro takes another tall.

[BomberDay]

Improved nutrition over several generations!

[Rom]

How many talls do you want, thats what last years draft was all about apparently.

[Albert_Thurgood]

@Clone_Hirdy

Albert Thurgood 183cm

That is incredible for a player who was widely acknowledged as the best KPF not only of his generation but for decades after.

[WindsockBoy]

For a more complete picture you do need to add the playing weight.
Late career Plugger & Doug Wade might not have been that tall, but it’d take an opponent a fair while to run around them.

[kingofthehill]

You’ve done enough to convince me on Goater. All aboard!!

[Captain_Jack]

Move over, you’re in my seat.

Perhaps l need to take a rest from this thread for a few weeks. Every time l read/see something about another potential draftee l want us to pick them up. Goater isn’t the latest, but is becoming a firm favourite, l want him or NWM. Then again tomorrow, who knows?

[Bomberfrom84]

Hard to go past Neil Erasmus if he’s still there at our pick.

[kingofthehill]

I’m a bit nervous about NWM. I feel like the classy outside players are more likely to be a bust than the those that win their own ball.

[GrenvoldsGang]

Looking at some different phantom / mock drafts, it looks as though some often mentioned names will be there at the 20-35 range. I’d love EFC to get one more pick or slide 11 for two picks somehow.

[Humble_Minion]

Funny, I actually believe the opposite.

Classy, top-level disposal always has a place, and is a weapon at any level.

Winning your own ball is great, but it’s a lot harder to do at afl level than it is in the u18s. In my experience it’s the big physical inside types who are more likely to not live up to high expectations after being drafted once they have to start performing against the big boys (when we’re talking about mids at least, talls are a different kettle of fish)