#29 Patrick Ambrose -- has shot Blitz out of the cannon


#3202

Ok fair enough you say Ambrose has more than enough credits.
I think he’s running low.
And very soon - maybe this week - Zerk will go past him.


#3203

More or less credits than the midfielders who had their pants pulled down then got a spanking?


#3204

Huh?
Is this the Patty Ambrose thread or the Heppell/Merrett/Shiel/Langford/Smith/McGrath/
Myers thread?


#3205

If zerk is a replacement for Ambrose this week it’s the wrong change and I really want BZerk in the team.


#3206

If we get to Rd.8 and we’re 2 - 6 again, then fine bring Zerk in, just not right now.
Actually, I don’t believe he should play until Hooksey is in that backline.
Could you imagine the poor kid debuting in that backline at the moment ?..fark


#3207

Are we a little conservative with our kids at times?


#3208

Good idea, except Woosha isn’t into taggers. I’ve been saying FOR A LONG TIME HE BE PERFECT.


#3209

Yer probably.
Just what I saw at a VFL game last year was a really skinny kid, though a very tall one (as tall as Harts).

Granted, he’s probably put on some beef in the off season.
There is definitely a player there.


#3210

Yes, but i see what @bltn is saying. i dont have confidence in Hurleys leadership to hold a nervous first gamer together in front of a 35,000+ crowd. Hooker is a far more effective leader.


#3211

I think the argument is more that Zerk might actually help Hurley, rather than the other way around.


#3212

By taking jobs that Hurley is now ill-equiped to take on ?


#3213

Pretty much.

It’s what Hartley did in 2017. It got Hurely another AA nod too.


#3214

Well you’re saying Ambrose should be/will be dropped because he’s running out of credits due to poor performances.
By the same token you should believe that our midfielders, who were far worse on the weekend, are beginning to run out of credits.


#3215

Yes and yes.

I think with all our players it’s whether they can perform on the big stage. Sunday was a big stage occasion. The final against Sydney was another big stage occasion. Anzac Day last year etc etc


#3216

Conceding 4 goals to player who is in the top ten key forwards in the competition in a 72 point loss is not good, but not a disgrace.

On the weekend I was amazed to see a 20 year old player easily push Hurls out of a marking contest,
especially after we were told Rutten was working with KPDs to improve skills in one on ones. We really only had 2 defenders that put heavy physical pressure on opposition forwards; Ambrose and Francis. The rest were just brushed aside.

In the new age of forward pressure,the opposition forwards are all being asked to put massive physical pressure on defenders: they don’t tend to concede, run away and flood back as soon as they lose possession anymore if they are anywhere near an opposition defender.

We don’t have enough defenders who can stand up to this and dish it out and our only hope of doing well is for the midfield to reduce the number of I50s against substantially, absolutely minimise our defensive half turnovers and improve our defensive structure or at least give them time to reset after rebounding.

For the above reason, I would try Ambrose before Hartley, Redman before either Gleeson or Ridley but in the end we do have to have the best balance of physicality, winning one on ones, intercept marking and rebounding and it will be some time before we get that mix optimised.


#3217

I have been critical, but he was really good today imo. I was impressed in a team full of non efforts


#3218

Can hold his head up high


#3219

He is the no frills defender - does his job - actually turns up and plays every week. Stood up a few times when the Aints were getting rough.


#3220

Was very solid today.


#3221

Taking marks over his head like they were going out of fashion.