Fine, agree to disagree.
Gonna make Battle look like a mere skirmish.
Two bean poles is only part of the problemā¦
He decided to take THREE top 10 picks into a start where the majority of the draft pool didnāt play footy for a year. Imagine trying to pick 2025 picks 12 months earlyā¦ Huge risk to take when draft prospects change so much in that final year.
He was scratchy in 2010, but showed some signs, and was looking like he might have a future if he could just get some more continuity.
Then he missed all of 2011 and didnāt play a game at any level.
I was being a tad facetious. I do remember the odd thing here and there - a pack mark, a lead - and thinking that you can see what recruiters had seen, but it was few and far between (because of the injuries obviously). I was just very surprised to read that he actually played 17 games in a season.
As HAP said, the STREAK! (That thread was some of Simmoās finest work)
Iām surprised he only played 7 games in 2013, I remember doing some actual good things that year. Certainly enough for us to get a third round draft pick off freo for him.
Was he ever really that good anyway? He could take a good grab but he got pushed off the ball too easily in 1 on 1s and wasnāt the greatest kick for goal either. Probably ends up with his peak being a Luenberger level career even if he was healthy.
It depends where you are talking from. If he never had any injuries, then yeah I think he would have had a pretty damn good career.
He kicked 45-23 over his career, so he wasnāt actually that bad of a kick.
IIRC his 2013 showed he could still mark and kick the ball at a high level, but his mobility and back was absolutely rooted.
I just presume heās injured when i see the thread bumped
I remember he kicked 4 goals against St Kilda, and Goddard cried.
It was also made worse for the fact that dodoro picked eyre and brand afterwards. Whatever way you want to put it, picking 4 talls in one draft especially a covid affected one was just plain stupid. Dodoro was made to look even more stupid when he said it was setting us up for the future, thatās fine if you want to think like that, but you donāt do that in one freaking draft.
Also want to argue with bomberrhys that nik cox did not have an established position. Even when we drafted cox, dodoro said that we donāt know long term what his best position will be. There were murmurings from other clubs that they didnāt know long term what his best position is, the jury is still out on him tbh but would like to see him up forward more.
Well, heās sure as ā ā ā ā not a backman. I donāt know how many times Midtable Brad needs to see it just to be sure. Heās nowhere near agile enough for wing. The couple of games this year he played forward and kicked multiple goals were his most promising. Canāt remember which games in particular (they all blend into a melange of nothingness these days). The problem is, a forwardline with all of him, Jones and Caddy is unbalanced. I only see room for two of them (and thatās leaving aside the obvious shortcomings that Jones hasā¦)
Not one draft, but Hawthorn recruited a half dozen KPP (Buddy, Rough, Thorp, Dowler and Iām pretty sure a couple of others) over a 2-3 year period (and all the ones listed were top 10 iirc) for only 2 of them to work out.
Inevitably drafting is a numbers game (the Hawthorn example is probably similar to what it took us to get Hooker/Hurls/Carlisle) and youāll have more misses than hits.
The difference being that Hawthorn had more hits than misses and their hits were superstars whereas we had more misses than hits and our hits were good players at best.
Cmon Reidy we need you to come good so we can get McKay as far away from the backline as possible.
It was a peck injury so he should have been back running for a couple of weeks now.
Even if he fronts up with the no contact vest he should be there.
Zac Dawson, Simon Taylor, Brent Renouf, Josh Thurgood, Gilham.
Some illustrious names
What they did do pretty well was IDing guys once they were in the system. (Probably missed Josh Kennedy and Shane Tuck). If guys werenāt flying after 3-4 years (by and large) they moved them on. We have given a few guys a few too many years
Anyway, Zach Reid going into year 6.
This bloke will most likely be in rehab during the pre season
Just dosent have the body for AFL what a waste of a pick
Did we decide to do that or did it occur?
We could have traded Joe D in 2019.
At that time 2020 was looking to be a normal year without any interference from a pesky pandemic that shut down all sporting comps around the world.
What was the 2020 draft tracking as being at the time of the trade?
I donāt think we planned it out to end with that result. No one saw what was coming in 2020 with any level of assurance until at actually occurred.
And the āwe should have traded those 2020 picks into the 2021 draftā donāt live in any reality of what was happening at the time.
Teams were not interested in trading out of a 2021 draft that would have had more U18 exposure into a 2020 draft that had very little U18 exposure.
The probabilities of doing that and ending favourably was extremely slim.