#38 Sam Draper


#965

It was just a speculative go at something the coaching staff may vaguely think about, given they have given him some very small stints in the ruck.

I actually think you are right, it would be great if you could teach players to be more aggressive, and maybe some players can find that within them, but like Michael Oher said when he was annoyed at how he was depicted in the movie " The Blind Side" as needing to be taught how to be aggressive:

“I’ve always had that fire and passion in me on the field. You can’t put aggression into a person. It’s impossible. Either you have that toughness and aggression, or you don’t.”


#966

No need to pander to that type.


#967

Bamboozling, really.


#968

not sure how much more this thread can bear


#969

It’s not all black and white, you know.


#970

If we can’t find a suitable ruck daniher mckernan and draper might have to share the load.

I reckon this could bite us hard.

Belly does not have a great record with injury and we simply can’t expect draper to carry the load single handedly.

We need another ruckman. Question is where the hell do we find one.

I’d have been chasing Dawson Simpson but he probably sees a real chance to get the number one spot at giants.

We could do worse than get Mumford for 12 months.


#971

Needs rebooting you think?


#972

Woosha is all over the shop here. One minute Draper is on the verge of selection. The next he is a “baby”.


#973

If Draper Has a big preseason, and gets himself into the gym.
He might well be a decent back up option.


#974

Draper is already a backup option. 180+ tapouts in 3 VFL Finals plus possessions and goals tells me he is at very worst ready as a back up to Tommy B.


#975

Draper needs to watch as much vision of ruckmen around the ground as he possibly can. Do a Zerrett. Absorb as much as you can, learn from that footage. The alternative is game experience and that takes time.


#976

doesn’t mind a mixed public message does Worsfold.


#977

It’s exciting to have a kid in the VFL that we are going to follow with such keen interest.

But even if he shows excellent form he will need Belly to either be rested or injured to maybe get an opportunity. Depends on who they recruit. But if Draper does bridge that gap through pre-season and playing VFL next year then it’ll be an early awaited debut for who should be our next number one ruckman.


#978

You don’t think that happens already?


#979

I’m happy to send him some videos of Grundy and Cox (Dean Cox - not that seppo flog) if not.


#980

If Draper’s improvement continues at the same rate he has been going …He will be ready (as a backup) for Round 1.

His upside is huge …the sooner we get him some senior games the better. The big issue we have with Sammy at the moment is keeping Adelaide away from him.


#981

Stewart took a few ball-ups in the forward line during the VFL finals and did ok - tapped one right down Green’s throat from memory. Only saw him take maybe one or two centre bounces though.

He’d obviously need a lot of work, but he’s got the leap and the endurance, so maybe it’s an option for us.


#982

Probably right earlier in the year, but think that’s a bit unfair on Stewart after the VFL finals. Reckon he’s come on a long way with his body work and physicality.

Absolutely sacked Ellis go give Younan (I think) a clear run for a goal against the Tigers. Also, as I posted, did ok in fwd line ball-ups, won the taps a few times.

I dunno if he’s a serious ruck option, but I reckon he’s a different player to the one we last saw in the AFL.


#983

I have few doubts that Draper could start in round one and get thirty taps.
Probably more, maybe even much more.

But if holding him back for half a season, gets him to be a 15-20 possession player rather than a 5-10 possession player, then it will be worth the wait.
If he starts doing that in the VFL he won’t be able to be kept out anyway.

He’s probably going to be our most anticipated debut after Shiel this season.
Can’t wait.


#984

Don’t underestimate how big the step up is from VFL to AFL for a ruckman still learning the game. I agree he’s coming along nicely but at this stage of his development I can still see him getting destroyed by a Grundy or Gawn level ruckman.

I’d say we definitely need an experienced ruckman to come in. Doesn’t necessarily have to be AFL experience either. Just someone who has played at a good level as a number 1 ruckman for more than 5 minutes. We wouldn’t want the lack of an adequate backup to Bellcho costing us a final