4 Senior List Spots, 1 Rookie & 1 Zac Clarke... Do we take 4 Picks at the National Draft? Or play 2019 with 39-5?


#102

Herald Sun running an article, headline - “Will ex-Docker answer Bombers’ SOS?”

Subscriber article but its related to Zac Clarke and our need for a ruck


#103

Essendon searches for back-up ruckman after retirement of Matthew Leunberger

Jay Clark, Herald Sun

November 7, 2018 4:34pm

ESSENDON is scouring the country to find another capable back-up ruckman as AFL clubs face an alarming shortage of ready-made big men.

Club recruiters told the Herald Sun the lack of quality ruck prospects in this year’s draft was prompting scouts to look for more overseas talls such as Collingwood’s Mason Cox.

The Bombers are looking to add another big man after Matthew Leuenberger’s surprise retirement last month.

Essendon wanted to keep Leuenberger and offered him a new deal, but the former Lion hung up the boots after managing just two senior games in 2018.

The Bombers have surged into fifth favourite ($9) for next year’s premiership with TAB after beating Hawthorn, Carlton and St Kilda for onball jet Dylan Shiel.

Another tall would round out Essendon’s list as it chases its first finals win since 2004.

But the Bombers could be looking for a needle in football’s haystack with clubs lamenting the small number of AFL-ready and top-class under-18 ruck prospects available.

Remarkably, only three rucks were invited to the draft combine and one of them — Kieran Briggs — is zoned to Greater Western Sydney through its academy.

This year’s leading ruck prospects from the state leagues include former Docker Zac Clarke (Subiaco), ex-Gold Coast Sun Keegan Brooksby (South Adelaide), Darcy Fort (Central Districts) and delisted Bulldog Tom Campbell.

North Melbourne is also looking at a ruckman after losing Braydon Preuss to Melbourne, while GWS is looking to revive the career of Shane Mumford.

Clarke was delisted by Fremantle at the end of 2017 with a knee injury, but the 28-year-old is tipped to secure an AFL lifeline after a strong comeback season in the WAFL.

The 197cm Brooksby was named captain of the SANFL team of the year after playing 14 AFL games across three seasons with the struggling Suns.

Delisted Docker Zac Clarke is a chance to return to an AFL list.

The AFL has changed its ruck rules twice in recent seasons to help protect the influence of big men in the ruck contests including banning the third man up.

The Bombers will enter the November 22-23 national draft with pick 34, but could also use one of their rookie draft selections to enlist another strong aerialist.

Veteran big man Tom Bellchambers will lead Essendon’s ruck division in 2019, with versatile tall Shaun McKernan and former 203cm goalkeeper Sam Draper as back-up options.

Bellchambers is coming off one of his best seasons, finishing sixth in the best-and-fairest from 20 matches, but his injury history means the club will ensure it has adequate coverage.

The Bombers are excited by 203cm Draper’s potential coming into his third season, despite failing to make his AFL debut in his first two seasons in red and black.

MATURE-AGE RUCK PROSPECTS

1. Zac Clarke (Subiaco)

Age: 28 Height: 203cm

2. Darcy Fort (Central Districts)

Age: 25, 205cm

3. Keegan Brooksby (South Adelaide)

Age: 28, 197cm

4. Tom Campbell (Western Bulldogs)

Age: 27, 200cm

5. Sam Baulderstone (Norwood)

Age: 28, 200cm

6. Nick Meese (Williamstown)

Age: 30, 197cm


#104

Bring in Baulderstone


#105

There’s generally one spot in the best 22 for a genuine ruck, so any decent young ruck who’s second in line will likely get a ruck spot at another team for minimal trade compensation, so there’s not a lot of incentive for clubs to invest in ruck talent unless their first ruck choice is in a very specific age bracket. Also, there are probably a decent number of guys who would have been ruckmen in the past who are just straight up key position players now.

On top of which it appears to me that either AFL recruiters are exceptionally good at identifying ruck talent, and just don’t miss any, or that it’s very difficult for a ruckman to develop to AFL level in state league competitions.


#106

Is it 4 list spots or 5?


#107

If we’re going down this stop gap path, I think Fort is the way to go. Draper might not be far away and Clarke himself has had his own injury troubles which must be a concern. He looks to have got himself right this year but he’s got a long history prior to that. Maybe his body cannot handle AFL standard training loads?


#108

How much of the football he missed was due to simply not being picked versus injury?
In his last 6 seasons he played a minimum 13 games at AFL level. Presumably there were times he was simply left out. So is his injury history overblown?

Despite asking questions about this, i’d prefer to go with Fort as well.


#109

Not really sure what sunbury is referring too.

Played 1 in WAFL + 17 AFL games in 2013, 21 in AFL in 2014, 6 WAFL + 14 AFL games in 2015, 11 in 2016 + 13 AFL, 20 WAFL games in 2018

So he’s played pretty much full seasons in 5 of the last 6 years.

He missed all of 2017 with a knee. But that hasn’t been a chronic thing.


#110

Don’t all answer at once!


#111

4 main list spots


#112

How come whenever our draft picks are listed on a news site they always show only 3 picks and not 4?


#113

Plus 1 rookie?

It’s hard to keep track with different categories of rookies and players getting upgraded to and downgraded from the senior list.

All I know is we’ve had 6 players go out and 1 player come in so far


#114

@Ants already has this noted on blitz


#115

probably as its in the 6th round or something. seems beyond the 5th round isnt worth mentioning as thats around the point where clubs begin to start passing


#116

So what’s the go with Lavender then?

Wasn’t McNeice always a Cat B rookie? What happened there?


#117

Lavendar still on Cat B. We can have 3

People seem to think McN was upgraded to CatA but nothing from club really indicated as such. If he did been put back to CatB, or otherwise was always there and only upgraded due to LTI’s


#118

McNiece was a Cat A rookie. I assume the AFL’s final lists for each club from November 2017 is sufficient evidence: AFL: Every club’s list


#119

I’m not sure you can completely trust stuff on the AFL site. It could be that their communication specialist was basically putting the info together rather than getting it from an official AFL list that isn’t publicly available.
Could very easily get obscure ones like McNeice wrong.


#120

So you have to assume that (a) the AFL site doesn’t have the correct final list, (b) that Essendon didn’t fill their Cat A rookie list for the first time in 20 odd years and © the insiders here were all wrong, to believe that McNiece wasn’t a Cat A rookie last year.

I mean, really?


#121

okay thanks for clearly that up, wonder why he has been moved back to Cat B then?