Ex-#44 Shaun McKernan

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And… here we go!

Is he a ruck, ruck rover, key forward, big bodied mid, utility, third tall?

Seriously. What is this guy?

Is he a ruck, ruck rover, key forward, big bodied mid, utility, third tall?

Seriously. What is this guy?

That’s the trouble with him, his body size and type is not conducive to being outstanding in any particular position! Would have made a great ruck rover in the 60’s!

Is he a ruck, ruck rover, key forward, big bodied mid, utility, third tall?

Seriously. What is this guy?

That’s the trouble with him, his body size and type is not conducive to being outstanding in any particular position! Would have made a great ruck rover in the 60’s though!

Is he a ruck, ruck rover, key forward, big bodied mid, utility, third tall?

Seriously. What is this guy?

He’s an uber athletic big man who’s also a bit of a spazz.

Don’t read too much into that performance, one of his goals was awesome but the other two were from defensive errors that Collingwood wouldn’t have made if they were closer to full strength.

I’m not joking that I think he could thrive as a HFF / mid who can pinch hit in the ruck.

Being constantly involved with the play while not having the pressure of a primary big man role could be exactly what he needs at AFL level.

I'm not joking that I think he could thrive as a HFF / mid who can pinch hit in the ruck.

Being constantly involved with the play while not having the pressure of a primary big man role could be exactly what he needs at AFL level.

He hasn’t got the tank for it.

That’s half his issue with rucking. He’s ok in small stints, but once he has to do it for extended periods of time, he tires. And when he tires, he starts jumping less and scragging more, which is when the free kicks start happening.

In that infamous game against Goldy, most took note of all the free kicks, but i mostly noticed that 15 mins into the first quarter, he was essentially dead on his feet.

I think rucking as an undersized ruckman really takes it out of you, and it’s probably something Judas Ryder doesn’t get enough credit for. (But fark him anyway)

I'm not joking that I think he could thrive as a HFF / mid who can pinch hit in the ruck.

Being constantly involved with the play while not having the pressure of a primary big man role could be exactly what he needs at AFL level.

He hasn’t got the tank for it.

That’s half his issue with rucking. He’s ok in small stints, but once he has to do it for extended periods of time, he tires. And when he tires, he starts jumping less and scragging more, which is when the free kicks start happening.

In that infamous game against Goldy, most took note of all the free kicks, but i mostly noticed that 15 mins into the first quarter, he was essentially dead on his feet.

I think rucking as an undersized ruckman really takes it out of you, and it’s probably something Judas Ryder doesn’t get enough credit for. (But fark him anyway)

I mentioned that during the Goldstein game - he was serviceable the first 10 minutes of the first quarter, the first 5 minutes of the other quarters then for about 2 minutes after he’d had a spell on a spine.
Once he fatigued he got absolutely shat on, and unfortunately (for McKernan) the game has moved on from ruckman going 50/50 off the bench so he needs to find another couple of tricks

I'm not joking that I think he could thrive as a HFF / mid who can pinch hit in the ruck.

Being constantly involved with the play while not having the pressure of a primary big man role could be exactly what he needs at AFL level.

He hasn’t got the tank for it.

That’s half his issue with rucking. He’s ok in small stints, but once he has to do it for extended periods of time, he tires. And when he tires, he starts jumping less and scragging more, which is when the free kicks start happening.

In that infamous game against Goldy, most took note of all the free kicks, but i mostly noticed that 15 mins into the first quarter, he was essentially dead on his feet.

I think rucking as an undersized ruckman really takes it out of you, and it’s probably something Judas Ryder doesn’t get enough credit for. (But fark him anyway)

I mentioned that during the Goldstein game - he was serviceable the first 10 minutes of the first quarter, the first 5 minutes of the other quarters then for about 2 minutes after he’d had a spell on a spine.
Once he fatigued he got absolutely shat on, and unfortunately (for McKernan) the game has moved on from ruckman going 50/50 off the bench so he needs to find another couple of tricks

I don’t insist it is the answer, but the point being if he isn’t the main ruckman (which he has been when called upon, other than last Thursday) he won’t get as exhausted, and while spending too much time in the midfield is too much to ask, if his main role is a 3rd tall HFF who keeps the small and big backmen looking over their shoulders when the ball is in dispute, maybe that would work.

It is one thing to be quick, but he is pretty good at using his physical presence when the ball is in dispute, and this could benefit both the other talls and the smalls in our forward line, as well as being handy around the goals himself.

I'm not joking that I think he could thrive as a HFF / mid who can pinch hit in the ruck.

Being constantly involved with the play while not having the pressure of a primary big man role could be exactly what he needs at AFL level.

He hasn’t got the tank for it.

That’s half his issue with rucking. He’s ok in small stints, but once he has to do it for extended periods of time, he tires. And when he tires, he starts jumping less and scragging more, which is when the free kicks start happening.

In that infamous game against Goldy, most took note of all the free kicks, but i mostly noticed that 15 mins into the first quarter, he was essentially dead on his feet.

I think rucking as an undersized ruckman really takes it out of you, and it’s probably something Judas Ryder doesn’t get enough credit for. (But fark him anyway)

I mentioned that during the Goldstein game - he was serviceable the first 10 minutes of the first quarter, the first 5 minutes of the other quarters then for about 2 minutes after he’d had a spell on a spine.
Once he fatigued he got absolutely shat on, and unfortunately (for McKernan) the game has moved on from ruckman going 50/50 off the bench so he needs to find another couple of tricks

I don’t insist it is the answer, but the point being if he isn’t the main ruckman (which he has been when called upon, other than last Thursday) he won’t get as exhausted, and while spending too much time in the midfield is too much to ask, if his main role is a 3rd tall HFF who keeps the small and big backmen looking over their shoulders when the ball is in dispute, maybe that would work.

It is one thing to be quick, but he is pretty good at using his physical presence when the ball is in dispute, and this could benefit both the other talls and the smalls in our forward line, as well as being handy around the goals himself.

I think people need to stop trying to find a place to stick/shoe horn in, a guy who isn’t quite up to it, and start looking for/developing someone else who may be. McKernan will be 27 years old by the end of this season, he has had 2 AFL clubs over a period of 7 years, and has racked up the grand total of 49 games. Sometimes you have to accept the fact that someone is not quite up to it and move on. Good VFL player. Leave him there.

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I'm not joking that I think he could thrive as a HFF / mid who can pinch hit in the ruck.

Being constantly involved with the play while not having the pressure of a primary big man role could be exactly what he needs at AFL level.

He hasn’t got the tank for it.

That’s half his issue with rucking. He’s ok in small stints, but once he has to do it for extended periods of time, he tires. And when he tires, he starts jumping less and scragging more, which is when the free kicks start happening.

In that infamous game against Goldy, most took note of all the free kicks, but i mostly noticed that 15 mins into the first quarter, he was essentially dead on his feet.

I think rucking as an undersized ruckman really takes it out of you, and it’s probably something Judas Ryder doesn’t get enough credit for. (But fark him anyway)

I mentioned that during the Goldstein game - he was serviceable the first 10 minutes of the first quarter, the first 5 minutes of the other quarters then for about 2 minutes after he’d had a spell on a spine.
Once he fatigued he got absolutely shat on, and unfortunately (for McKernan) the game has moved on from ruckman going 50/50 off the bench so he needs to find another couple of tricks

I don’t insist it is the answer, but the point being if he isn’t the main ruckman (which he has been when called upon, other than last Thursday) he won’t get as exhausted, and while spending too much time in the midfield is too much to ask, if his main role is a 3rd tall HFF who keeps the small and big backmen looking over their shoulders when the ball is in dispute, maybe that would work.

It is one thing to be quick, but he is pretty good at using his physical presence when the ball is in dispute, and this could benefit both the other talls and the smalls in our forward line, as well as being handy around the goals himself.

I think people need to stop trying to find a place to stick/shoe horn in, a guy who isn’t quite up to it, and start looking for/developing someone else who may be. McKernan will be 27 years old by the end of this season, he has had 2 AFL clubs over a period of 7 years, and has racked up the grand total of 49 games. Sometimes you have to accept the fact that someone is not quite up to it and move on. Good VFL player. Leave him there.

I don’t usually put him in my best side, because individually he doesn’t look as good on paper as others, but I am open to the idea that he could help with team balance if played as the main ruck alternative, and allows Joe to stay forward .

I do genuinely believe he has more to offer than TBC as the second ruck at the moment, and probably more than Stewart for now.

If we don’t want to use JD as second ruck, I think he is our best alternative. Given there is probably now a small window to try him in this role, and if he continues to show form, we should try him in a role like this. If it doesn’t work TBC and Stewart are next in line and we move on.

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Is he a ruck, ruck rover, key forward, big bodied mid, utility, third tall?

Seriously. What is this guy?

That’s the trouble with him, his body size and type is not conducive to being outstanding in any particular position! Would have made a great ruck rover in the 60’s though!

He would have been a giant in the 60s. "Big Nick" was only about 5'2"!!
I'm not joking that I think he could thrive as a HFF / mid who can pinch hit in the ruck.

Being constantly involved with the play while not having the pressure of a primary big man role could be exactly what he needs at AFL level.

He hasn’t got the tank for it.

That’s half his issue with rucking. He’s ok in small stints, but once he has to do it for extended periods of time, he tires. And when he tires, he starts jumping less and scragging more, which is when the free kicks start happening.

In that infamous game against Goldy, most took note of all the free kicks, but i mostly noticed that 15 mins into the first quarter, he was essentially dead on his feet.

I think rucking as an undersized ruckman really takes it out of you, and it’s probably something Judas Ryder doesn’t get enough credit for. (But fark him anyway)

I mentioned that during the Goldstein game - he was serviceable the first 10 minutes of the first quarter, the first 5 minutes of the other quarters then for about 2 minutes after he’d had a spell on a spine.
Once he fatigued he got absolutely shat on, and unfortunately (for McKernan) the game has moved on from ruckman going 50/50 off the bench so he needs to find another couple of tricks

I don’t insist it is the answer, but the point being if he isn’t the main ruckman (which he has been when called upon, other than last Thursday) he won’t get as exhausted, and while spending too much time in the midfield is too much to ask, if his main role is a 3rd tall HFF who keeps the small and big backmen looking over their shoulders when the ball is in dispute, maybe that would work.

It is one thing to be quick, but he is pretty good at using his physical presence when the ball is in dispute, and this could benefit both the other talls and the smalls in our forward line, as well as being handy around the goals himself.

I think people need to stop trying to find a place to stick/shoe horn in, a guy who isn’t quite up to it, and start looking for/developing someone else who may be. McKernan will be 27 years old by the end of this season, he has had 2 AFL clubs over a period of 7 years, and has racked up the grand total of 49 games. Sometimes you have to accept the fact that someone is not quite up to it and move on. Good VFL player. Leave him there.

It’s hard to give up on him though considering his best is THAT good and it only seems like a minor bit of tweaking of his game is required for him to become a quality player. Is in the prime age group for a ruckman/forward so its not unreasonable to hope that he can finally flick that little switch in his head and turn himself into a consistently good player. Fingers crossed

I'm not joking that I think he could thrive as a HFF / mid who can pinch hit in the ruck.

Being constantly involved with the play while not having the pressure of a primary big man role could be exactly what he needs at AFL level.

He hasn’t got the tank for it.

That’s half his issue with rucking. He’s ok in small stints, but once he has to do it for extended periods of time, he tires. And when he tires, he starts jumping less and scragging more, which is when the free kicks start happening.

In that infamous game against Goldy, most took note of all the free kicks, but i mostly noticed that 15 mins into the first quarter, he was essentially dead on his feet.

I think rucking as an undersized ruckman really takes it out of you, and it’s probably something Judas Ryder doesn’t get enough credit for. (But fark him anyway)

I mentioned that during the Goldstein game - he was serviceable the first 10 minutes of the first quarter, the first 5 minutes of the other quarters then for about 2 minutes after he’d had a spell on a spine.
Once he fatigued he got absolutely shat on, and unfortunately (for McKernan) the game has moved on from ruckman going 50/50 off the bench so he needs to find another couple of tricks

I don’t insist it is the answer, but the point being if he isn’t the main ruckman (which he has been when called upon, other than last Thursday) he won’t get as exhausted, and while spending too much time in the midfield is too much to ask, if his main role is a 3rd tall HFF who keeps the small and big backmen looking over their shoulders when the ball is in dispute, maybe that would work.

It is one thing to be quick, but he is pretty good at using his physical presence when the ball is in dispute, and this could benefit both the other talls and the smalls in our forward line, as well as being handy around the goals himself.

I think people need to stop trying to find a place to stick/shoe horn in, a guy who isn’t quite up to it, and start looking for/developing someone else who may be. McKernan will be 27 years old by the end of this season, he has had 2 AFL clubs over a period of 7 years, and has racked up the grand total of 49 games. Sometimes you have to accept the fact that someone is not quite up to it and move on. Good VFL player. Leave him there.

WTF. Do we not have an obligation to try and get the best out of each of the 44/45 players on our list? Should we not have delisted him if we thought what your post says?

I'm not joking that I think he could thrive as a HFF / mid who can pinch hit in the ruck.

Being constantly involved with the play while not having the pressure of a primary big man role could be exactly what he needs at AFL level.

He hasn’t got the tank for it.

That’s half his issue with rucking. He’s ok in small stints, but once he has to do it for extended periods of time, he tires. And when he tires, he starts jumping less and scragging more, which is when the free kicks start happening.

In that infamous game against Goldy, most took note of all the free kicks, but i mostly noticed that 15 mins into the first quarter, he was essentially dead on his feet.

I think rucking as an undersized ruckman really takes it out of you, and it’s probably something Judas Ryder doesn’t get enough credit for. (But fark him anyway)

I mentioned that during the Goldstein game - he was serviceable the first 10 minutes of the first quarter, the first 5 minutes of the other quarters then for about 2 minutes after he’d had a spell on a spine.
Once he fatigued he got absolutely shat on, and unfortunately (for McKernan) the game has moved on from ruckman going 50/50 off the bench so he needs to find another couple of tricks

I don’t insist it is the answer, but the point being if he isn’t the main ruckman (which he has been when called upon, other than last Thursday) he won’t get as exhausted, and while spending too much time in the midfield is too much to ask, if his main role is a 3rd tall HFF who keeps the small and big backmen looking over their shoulders when the ball is in dispute, maybe that would work.

It is one thing to be quick, but he is pretty good at using his physical presence when the ball is in dispute, and this could benefit both the other talls and the smalls in our forward line, as well as being handy around the goals himself.

I think people need to stop trying to find a place to stick/shoe horn in, a guy who isn’t quite up to it, and start looking for/developing someone else who may be. McKernan will be 27 years old by the end of this season, he has had 2 AFL clubs over a period of 7 years, and has racked up the grand total of 49 games. Sometimes you have to accept the fact that someone is not quite up to it and move on. Good VFL player. Leave him there.

WTF. Do we not have an obligation to try and get the best out of each of the 44/45 players on our list? Should we not have delisted him if we thought what your post says?

Of course we should try to get the best out of our players, but smack imo is still on our list purely as a ruck that will get promoted if both our primary rucks go down. Until that time I don’t see the point in trying him in every other position and most definitely not in the seniors.

I'm not joking that I think he could thrive as a HFF / mid who can pinch hit in the ruck.

Being constantly involved with the play while not having the pressure of a primary big man role could be exactly what he needs at AFL level.

He hasn’t got the tank for it.

That’s half his issue with rucking. He’s ok in small stints, but once he has to do it for extended periods of time, he tires. And when he tires, he starts jumping less and scragging more, which is when the free kicks start happening.

In that infamous game against Goldy, most took note of all the free kicks, but i mostly noticed that 15 mins into the first quarter, he was essentially dead on his feet.

I think rucking as an undersized ruckman really takes it out of you, and it’s probably something Judas Ryder doesn’t get enough credit for. (But fark him anyway)

I mentioned that during the Goldstein game - he was serviceable the first 10 minutes of the first quarter, the first 5 minutes of the other quarters then for about 2 minutes after he’d had a spell on a spine.
Once he fatigued he got absolutely shat on, and unfortunately (for McKernan) the game has moved on from ruckman going 50/50 off the bench so he needs to find another couple of tricks

I don’t insist it is the answer, but the point being if he isn’t the main ruckman (which he has been when called upon, other than last Thursday) he won’t get as exhausted, and while spending too much time in the midfield is too much to ask, if his main role is a 3rd tall HFF who keeps the small and big backmen looking over their shoulders when the ball is in dispute, maybe that would work.

It is one thing to be quick, but he is pretty good at using his physical presence when the ball is in dispute, and this could benefit both the other talls and the smalls in our forward line, as well as being handy around the goals himself.

I think people need to stop trying to find a place to stick/shoe horn in, a guy who isn’t quite up to it, and start looking for/developing someone else who may be. McKernan will be 27 years old by the end of this season, he has had 2 AFL clubs over a period of 7 years, and has racked up the grand total of 49 games. Sometimes you have to accept the fact that someone is not quite up to it and move on. Good VFL player. Leave him there.

WTF. Do we not have an obligation to try and get the best out of each of the 44/45 players on our list? Should we not have delisted him if we thought what your post says?

Of course we should try to get the best out of our players, but smack imo is still on our list purely as a ruck that will get promoted if both our primary rucks go down. Until that time I don’t see the point in trying him in every other position and most definitely not in the seniors.

Bingo. VFL player who can provide depth.

But it’s a position in which we have practically zero depth, so he will quite likely have some sort of role to play.

With Bellchambers behind the 8 ball to stay the season there’s a big chance that one of Stewart and McKernan will be playing ruck minutes and resting forward early in the season. (Assuming Worsfold wants someone to give Leuenberger a chop out, which given how much we’ll be relying on him across the year kind of seems sensible).

Until Myers got added to the LTI list this competition was pointless, but now there’s a genuine chance that McKernan can force his way into the side for round one.

Return of the sMack

What an enigma. I swear, if he can ever find some consistency, he’ll be one of the most entertaining players to watch that I’ve seen in a long time. Tell me it’s not just a dream?

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