Carlisle played predominantly forward under him because he wanted Hurley on defence. Hirdy played Hurley forward and Carlisle in defence (would swing them sometimes)
If only one of them thought Hooker, we would probably still have them 3
Pick 23 was originally ours. We downgraded it to pick 24. That downgrade was what made it (theoretically but not actually once picks started moving around) a points-positive trade for the swans. So we were
out: Carlisle, 23, 44
in: 5, 24, Bird
Well, they got what Birch quoted below, but they also came out points positive. They were going to lose #14 anyway to get Mills (went #3), but it wasn’t enough on its own. The traded for #23 and #44, then traded #23 again for another points positive result.
From their perspective they did not do. From their end they gave up #5 for Carlisle, but also got an upgrade of their second round pick to #14.
Given our options and what we got for Ryder, we should bless Sydney for this and everyone should walk away (relatively) happy from the deal. If Sydney hadn’t come to the party, I expect we would have got two second rounders at best.
More on Hurley was also. Gun defender. Reckon Carlisle would have one if he wasn’t wasted forward. Remember when Cloke looked like having form again and Carlol relegated him to the shadow realm?
So Carlisle forward is on Bomber, but Hurley back is on Hurley? Strange logic, considering the two things were directly linked.
Basically, Bomber made a call between the two… And he made the right call imo.
Obviously, if we had of thought about Hooker forward a bit earlier things might be different, but Hooker was an AA defender during Bomber’s year. Tough to move him at that stage.
With a lot of hindsight, that is the one that hurts. If we’d moved Hooker forward, we might have one of the great 1-2 defensive units with Carlisle/Hurley, and Hooker would potentially have 2-3 years of forward experience and might be kicking 50+ a year. Maybe Carlisle would have Hooker’s AA.