He plays for the rest of the season, we clearly are committing to a rebuild and he’ll learn (and so will we) what it takes. He know he is committed and we know he can find the ball, now he just needs to improve his impact with it and his impact without it.
There are some similarities with him and Jobe and Tsatas might just be a slow build
Yeah averaging 8 clearances a game so far this year (also had 10 in the praccy against Geelong) which is considered elite.
Lots to work on but that was always going to be the case, just keep sending him up and get as many midfield minutes into him as we can.
Lowest TOG again outside of the sub/subbed players (57% last week, 63% against the Crows).
hes our 2nd highest rated player if you measure by time on bench
3rd, which is strange considering his performance when on the field.
Some of the commentary in here is wild.
He’s legitimately improved every facet of his game since last year and is tracking exactly the way we would expect.
He’s played 13 senior games.
Most of the knockers on here’s best achievement yesterday was probably knocking over 13 beers.
There’s some people on here with bolted on opinions about him who won’t be able to let them go now.
11 clearances and leading the contested possession count for both teams in limited ToG should be celebrated as a big win on the journey for a 10 gamer.
Even after that people are questioning whether he has elite qualities 
. The answer is obviously yes. Does he have flaws as well? Yes. But he has shown the desire and commitment to work on them.
We should all be excited
I don’t see what you guys are seeing in terms of upside or what the team needs. We need elite kickers. I want to be wrong on this and I hope he proves me wrong.
It’s not his fault he was picked at 5. I’m ■■■■■■ we continue to use high draft picks on players with clear deficiencies, thinking we can improve them when we haven’t develpoed players in 25 years
There is some light at the end of the tunnel with Tsatas.
If you could pick the worst players to get injured for structure it would probably be Ridley and Langford.
And then to have Wright unavailable too is unfortunate.
If Merrett were to go down now then I could see us receive an embarrassing loss worthy of a cellar dweller.
Tsatas shown more than Hobbs this year.
He’s just not playing like a top 5 pick yet.
I don’t mind Tsatas not being an elite kick. His disposal was good for his role and I think I only saw one glaring bad kick and that was right at the end of the game.
I rather get rid of McGrath and Shiel and get elite kickers coming out of defence
As a team we did last week as well and got beaten by 6 goals.
It’s what you do with it.
Look at the pass to Kako and Perkins as examples.
If Tsatas had 25 touches, 11 Clearances, and was the leading CP getter on the field in the VFL. Every person on this site would be screaming for him to come into the AFL.
Good on him for getting those numbers before he’s played 20 games. They aren’t the cheap 30 touch games that the Daicos and Sheezel types were getting in their early years off HBF. (Acknowledge they are seriously good players now).
I don’t really know what you’re expecting. He’s about 9-10 months into a complete overhaul which has him looking vastly better technically. You can rep at training and look a million bucks but there is a huge difference between training reps and reps in a game.
Not only is he getting his first taste of the speed and competitiveness of the AFL, he’s also having to use a new skill that’s not completely embedded into muscle memory. Of course he’s not executing perfectly.
I’m happy to wait until he’s had 200-300 clearances at this level and has got a handle on how much time he has, whether he has space, how hard he has to brace to wear contact and keep the hands free, etc etc. Then worry about whether he’s getting the ball to the right places.
The kid is just not in a side that he can thrive. If he was playing for Collingwood he would be rated as easily an elite young talent. That’s because he would be surrounded by Sidebottom, Pendlebury, daicosx2 and they are all very good users of the footy. Not only would he get the ball out to these players in space but even when he does break away from a clearance himself as he did a couple of times yesterday he would be kicking it to Cox, Miochek, membry, Elliot. All guys that can bring the ball to ground. Suddenly his up and under kicks that are quickly onto the boot in congestion don’t look so bad as they are brought to ground forward of centre.
We just have a very unbalanced side. We have a very good midfield that win the contest but can’t dispose inside 50 effectively. So logic would tell you that if that’s your midfield you need players that can crash packs forward of centre. Yet aside from Draper we don’t play any tall forwards (caddy is more medium than tall in height and is still slight).
It’s a list structure built for disaster. We either need better uses of the footy going forward or we need great contest players in our forward line. You can’t have neither and expect it to work
We still killing it in here? I like the boy, he will come good. I’m going to keep talking it into existence because we have no other choice
The great thing is he’s willing to do the work. And work needs to be done.
He just simply not an Ashcroft or Sheezel or one of those players who were ready to go instantly.
And he’s instinctively not a great decision maker or executor which is what we desperately need.
Providing we stop playing Shiel and embrace the rebuild I’m going to enjoy watching the kids get better this year. 2016 was fun, this year can be too if we commit to it.
He is a ball magnet extractor. Good in close with his hands. Just dont tell him to go for metres gained or kick. Inside 50.
A player like Weitering, Sicily, Andrews, or Moore (previous version) makes a huge difference. Not only they beat their opponents and hardly lose a contest, they also go and help their team mates out.
Ridley is as soft as they come and basically non-competitive. He is suitable for the loose man who floats across to take marks role.
Reid looks a broken man. So weak, slow and not match fit. Happy to give him a chance and let him get a lot of games in.
McKay seemed really good when the ball was pumped into the 50m. He took really good grabs and was looking like our answer, early last year. But he is slow not agile, and he is not capable to match the above mentioned names.
We still need to go find that type of player. Connor O’Sullivan was taking some great grabs for Geelong. They found another marking defender. Crazy.
