#5 - Elijah Tsatas (Part 2: Omitted)

[Rom]

Tipping a genuine break out game for the lad on Sunday night, just hope that he gets plenty of minutes at the coal face.

[Tbone]

I liked seeing Fiona’s run down of training where she spoke about Elijah being much more vocal and showing leadership traits during the stoppage work

[HirdMentality]

Tsatas is one of the only players we’ve taken with a 1st round draft picks who has been able to improve his game in our terrible development system and stay on the park despite our terrible S+C team of years gone by

[reincarnated]

This might be a small thing… but it infuriated me.

So Essendon names the squad… Mind you Parish is also out… but they name Setterfield in the starting 18 and have Tsatas in the extended bench.

My goodness.

[dbeas]

@efc1robbo

I do laugh how the narrative keeps changing about why he is no good

He can’t kick- he has fixed that

He has poor endurance- he has fixed that

He doesn’t tackle or defend - it’s clear he does

Funny how none of his critics highlight what he does well or his strengths.

Bottom line is we look a better balanced midfield when he is in there

No, no, and definitely no. He has improved, yes. Enough to stay on an AFL list? No.

I’ll very very very very surprised if he is on an AFL list next year.

Because his strengths are almost meaningless. As mentioned above, he is dead last for score involvements. This stat is a reliable indicator of how good a player is. Not clearances and definitely not the amount of disposals.

[RTBC]

@dbeas

he is dead last for score involvements. This stat is a reliable indicator of how good a player is.

I don’t know why people hold this stat up as a compelling a measure of relative game impact. If you are a player in a consistently ■■■■ team, the whole team is scoring two or three times less than opponents which severely curtails the amount of ‘score involvements’ you can feasibly accrue (pro rata).

It’s a stat that favours good teams and high scores.

[bobo]

It’s past time to see what some continuity and perhaps even some faith can do for Tsatas’ game in the seniors, but at least it looks like he’ll get it now.

It’s the missing information from the puzzle.

[Henry_s_Angry_Pills]

He’s a jogger defensively

I think the argument is we can’t play him and Parish together

I know how I’d solve it

Club reticent to let 8-900k play VFL.

[stir_fried_ewok]

From what I see, tsatas has improved significantly since being drafted.

[Tbone]

I think score launch is a better stat as it is the First possession in a chain that results in a score as as opposed to score involvement which is any possession in the chain that leads to a score.

When comparing him to robey he is equal with him and ahead of setterfeild and sharp on averages and .3 behind parish

[Tagger]

I wonder how Merrett and Parish can be going well score involvements then?

There is a stat called Score involvement % which measures how many team scores the player was involved in.

Merrett is second amongst inside mids this year, being involved in 32% of our scores. Parish is also top 20, at 29%. Tsatas is second last across the league at 12%

[RTBC]

Are those percentages weighted to account for minutes played for each player?

[Windy_Dill]

@Henry_s_Angry_Pills

He’s a jogger defensively

I think the argument is we can’t play him and Parish together

I know how I’d solve it

Club reticent to let 8-900k play VFL.

We need to move past both Parish and Tsatas. Neither put pressure on in transition (as you say - defensive joggers), and Tsatas is weak in close with his tackling. Possibly as poor as I’ve seen from an Essendon midfielder. I don’t buy the argument that you can carry one. If you’ve got one player like this, the chain breaks down. Can anyone point to a single decent AFL midfielder who is as weak as Tsatas defensively?

On the other side of the coin, Tsatas is not effective with the ball. There is no hurt factor when he uses it, and he does not carry the ball to create space or an advantage around clearances. It is a simple get the ball and and immediate give game. It’s not creative, very little forward handball. He’s not doing the grunt work either, goes at less than 1 hard ball get a game. Robey is going at four times that rate already.

I’ve got no idea why people are so enamoured with a player who is both statistically the worst defensive midfielder in the game, and statistically the least impactful midfielder in the game with his ball use.

[Clone_Hirdy]

@Rom

Tipping a genuine break out game for the lad on Sunday night, just hope that he gets plenty of minutes at the coal face.

I half want him dropped just for the melts in here.

I also want him to play to see if we can get some trade value for him once he asks to get traded.

[bullishish]

So, he needs to tackle more effectively, run defensively, not turn the ball over and improve his score involvements……all at the same time?

[bullishish]

Would you be able to add disposal efficiency and metres gained to this pls

[Henry_s_Angry_Pills]

@Windy_Dill

I don’t buy the argument that you can carry one.

I don’t think great sides carry any.

For where we’re at and for where his career’s at, I’d roll the dice on him working on it in the seniors.

[Bombers2013]

If he is not at Essendon next year he will definitely be at another AFL club.

[Duplicity]

Heard anything lately?

[Bombers2013]

No, not a lot but I am sure he is glad Scott got the flick.