#6 Joe Daniher - drank a beer

[Killer_Mike]

It is more unusual for a key position player to play reduced time than it would be for a midfielder.

Key position players rarely run anything close to what midfielders do so it will impact on rotations.

[Lance84]

yes but if he is on modified minutes he wouldnt play 70% as that applies to a fully fit player…

He would be lucky to play 50% of the intensity needed …

Bite the bullet and get the minutes and his confidence back in the VFL.

Chances someone breaks down round 1 is always high so as i said we could end up carrying 2 people or for a substantial amount of game or in the worst case scenario joe plays more then he should which could actually set him back!

Joe averaged over 92% game time in 2017. Modified might not be too much less.

[Deckham]

Yeah. I reckon he’d play 80%+ or not at all.

[Hesonlygotaleftfoot]

thats when he was fit…how fit is he…id say lucky to be 70%

[Killer_Mike]

Its probably more a case of reduced running rather than reduced minutes.

Brown will do the bulk of the running that we usually have Joe doing, and Joe will sit deep more.

[Lance84]

thats when he was fit…how fit is he…id say lucky to be 70%

Of course… If he was fit he wouldn’t be on managed minutes. He did 73% in JLT 2 some i’m guessing it’ll be over that.

By the way i’m not saying it’s a good idea to throw him out there for 50% of a game. I was just saying modified game time can still be over 80%.

[j_w]

As i said above. It’s not unusual for a player to play as low as 70% game time. If they think Joe playing 70+% is worth having then they should select him. If it was lower game time than that i’d think it was a pretty weird decision.

It certainly would be for a key position players. Look at the top 50 players for TOG% last year. With a few exceptions, all key position players. It would impact our midfield rotations pretty significantly, I imagine.

Rank	Player	Team	Games	Time On Ground % for Last Game	Average
1	Alex Rance	Tigers	24	97 v Collingwood, Preliminary Final	97.42
2	Ben Brown	Kangaroos	22	100 v St Kilda, Round 23	96.59
3	Joe Daniher	Bombers	7	96 v Hawthorn, Round 7	96.57
4	Oscar McDonald	Demons	25	94 v West Coast, Preliminary Final	96.04
5	Mark Blicavs	Cats	23	93 v Melbourne, Elimination Final	95.70
6	Sam Rowe	Blues	17	100 v Adelaide, Round 23	95.35
7	Dane Rampe	Swans	23	94 v GWS, Elimination Final	95.00
8	David Astbury	Tigers	22	88 v Collingwood, Preliminary Final	94.64
9	Marcus Adams	Bulldogs	6	98 v Port Adelaide, Round 19	94.33
10	Dale Morris	Bulldogs	11	93 v Richmond, Round 23	93.64
11	Mitchell Brown	Bombers	14	100 v Port Adelaide, Round 23	93.57
12	Thomas Jonas	Power	18	98 v Essendon, Round 23	93.22
13	Jack Riewoldt	Tigers	24	100 v Collingwood, Preliminary Final	93.12
14	Scott Thompson	Kangaroos	22	88 v St Kilda, Round 23	92.95
15	Benjamin Stratton	Hawks	23	61 v Richmond, Qualifying Final	92.74
16	Logan Austin	Saints	7	89 v North Melbourne, Round 23	92.71
17	Harris Andrews	Lions	18	100 v West Coast, Round 23	92.67
18	Zach Tuohy	Cats	23	86 v Melbourne, Elimination Final	92.65
18	Charlie Dixon	Power	20	72 v West Coast, Round 21	92.65
20	Cale Hooker	Bombers	22	93 v Port Adelaide, Round 23	92.64
21	Lachlan Henderson	Cats	7	87 v Melbourne, Elimination Final	92.57
22	Liam Jones	Blues	17	40 v Hawthorn, Round 18	92.53
23	Lance Franklin	Swans	19	87 v GWS, Elimination Final	92.37
24	Robbie Tarrant	Kangaroos	21	88 v St Kilda, Round 23	92.14
25	Daniel Talia	Crows	18	74 v Port Adelaide, Round 20	91.94
26	Tom Hawkins	Cats	21	100 v Melbourne, Elimination Final	91.81
27	Tom Clurey	Power	19	94 v West Coast, Round 21	91.79
28	Phil Davis	Giants	22	86 v Collingwood, Semi Final	91.59
29	Kade Simpson	Blues	21	82 v Adelaide, Round 23	91.38
30	James Sicily	Hawks	16	93 v Melbourne, Semi Final	91.31
31	Joel Hamling	Dockers	18	94 v Collingwood, Round 23	91.06
32	Rory Thompson	Suns	17	92 v Carlton, Round 19	91.00
33	Michael Hurley	Bombers	20	94 v Port Adelaide, Round 23	90.95
34	Tom Lynch	Suns	10	86 v Hawthorn, Round 14	90.90
35	Steven May	Suns	17	100 v Geelong, Round 23	90.59
36	Robbie Gray	Power	21	96 v Essendon, Round 23	90.43
37	Lachlan Hunter	Bulldogs	21	89 v Richmond, Round 23	90.33
38	Josh Jenkins	Crows	22	90 v Carlton, Round 23	90.32
39	Heath Shaw	Giants	20	79 v Adelaide, Round 21	90.30
40	Alex Pearce	Dockers	21	90 v Collingwood, Round 23	90.19
40	Brennan Cox	Dockers	16	96 v Collingwood, Round 23	90.19
42	Jake Carlisle	Saints	17	100 v North Melbourne, Round 23	90.18
43	Jarrad Waite	Kangaroos	13	85 v St Kilda, Round 23	90.08
44	Tom Mitchell	Hawks	24	90 v Melbourne, Semi Final	90.04
45	Kaiden Brand	Hawks	10	90 v Sydney, Round 23	89.80
46	Jack Gunston	Hawks	23	93 v Melbourne, Semi Final	89.61
47	Edward Curnow	Blues	21	88 v Adelaide, Round 23	89.57
48	Patrick Cripps	Blues	22	89 v Adelaide, Round 23	89.45
48	Dougal Howard	Power	20	90 v Essendon, Round 23	89.45
50	Jackson Trengove	Bulldogs	16	83 v Richmond, Round 23	89.44

[Lance84]

Yep. I just said above in 2017 he played over 92%.

[stir_fried_ewok]

I’m not sure what modified minutes means, but the reality is if Fanta gets going the other 5 forwards can all go sit down and enjoy the magic dance freak show.

[samwoods]

He will play. They will let him off the chain and if he breaks down then so be it.

Sure, he will be rusty, and demonstrate that ever unreliable set shot kicking we’ve grown accustomed to.

The trick here is to put him in cotton wool again if he pulls up sore. But until then, we will be all in on the Joe train.

[Lennoxbomber]

I would be happier to see Joe get his fitness back at vfl an actually dominate a game or two. Rip down 10 marks an kick 5 goals + an not 1 goal 6 plus two out of bounds on the full. From what I saw of JLT he would be like playing a man down. He offered bugger all. Playing him in ruck won’t work either if he just come off the type of injury he had. That will destroy him sooner. Why be obsessed bringing him in for round 1 so ■■■■■■ important to the club? The team showed last year we can win when joe isn’t playing. Just my thoughts. Not many will probably agree

[foxyjim]

Joe is a lot heavier and stronger than last year. I would like to see him use his strength and stand his ground when going for marks rather than continually going for hangers. Also give up staging for frees.

[Lance84]

Also give up staging for frees.

This frustrates me more than anything. I really hope he stops it.

[Benny40]

My prediction, he just won’t be running up the wings as much to collect possessions. Deep forward. Run 8-10km per game instead of the 15km some get up to. Stays the deepest forward until his fitness lets him work over defenders.

[sj_2150]

i reckon he was at his best when he was predominantly forward but had stints in the ruck. it gave him a chance to be free of 1-3 opponents hanging off him for a while and get some quality possession. kicked some primo goals from 50+ out from there too.

[Jake_Brady_10]

277k in SC, Do I take the punt on the big fella.

I have atm

[Benny40]

Thing is he probably can’t do the kms that getting outside the f50 require. Leave him deep. If he has 3 hanging off him, the other forwards need to take advantage. Our mids need to look for the best option, not just the joe option.

[Deckham]

Why be obsessed bringing him in for round 1 so ■■■■■■ important to the club?

What makes you think anyone is obsessed with it?

[Hoffy]

The gap between our first AFL game and first VFL (Apr7), means he probably needs to be managed in AFL.

[sj_2150]

Or the McDonald-Tipungwuti as a key forward option. Previously known as the Josh Green as a key forward option

Also i think they should be able to get him in the ruck again after hes settled in the team again