#6 Joe Daniher - drank a beer

theDJR · January 9, 2019, 4:46am

It’s not exactly a big story to say we prefer not to kick to the injured out-of-form guy.

Speedy_Gonzales · January 9, 2019, 4:52am

Yep.

Couldn’t get separation from his man on lead, was barely leading anyway. And if ball hit deck giving nothing. Why would they kick it to him.

Bomb_Doe · January 9, 2019, 4:55am

well… we also kicked to Alwyn Davey like he was a CHF - it’s the Essendon way.

aboods · January 9, 2019, 5:26am

Bomb_Doe:

aboods:

barnz:

Is that for us or the afl?

For us.
I don’t know where you can find the stats officially though.

I googled for Champion Data and Joey … I thought surely Champion Data would know … is this what you read?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-01/the-stats-files-joes-alarming-fall-from-grace

The stats files: Joe’s alarming fall from grace

Marc McGowan

May 1, 2018 7:00AM

Joe Daniher’s start to the season is baffling

THE GRAVITY of Joe Daniher’s alarming fall from grace was put into focus under the Etihad Stadium roof on Sunday.

Daniher’s Essendon teammates targeted him only twice inside 50 in their latest loss to Melbourne, his lowest in a match since round 22, 2015.

Recruit Jake Stringer (11 targets) and Jayden Laverde and Jackson Merrett (three each) all received more love.

That meagre number equated to just 7.4 per cent of the Bombers’ inside 50 targets, compared to a whopping 35 per cent in the corresponding clash with the Demons in round six last year.

Daniher’s 3.67 inside 50 targets per game this season are lower than even his debut 2013 campaign (4.6), after averaging more than six the past three years.

They plunged again since Cale Hooker shifted back into defence full-time in round four, and the drop-off comes despite no obvious change in his role or Essendon’s playing style from 2017.

Daniher’s one-on-one targets of 4.3 per match is higher than the past two seasons, but his win rate has plummeted from 40 per cent last year to just 31 per cent.

His percentage of involvements leading to a score and percentage of scores involved in have also both slipped significantly.

Melbourne great Garry Lyon suggested on SEN’s breakfast program on Monday that the Bombers were “taking the option not to kick to him”.

“I don’t reckon (Demons defender) Oscar (McDonald) had too many nervous moments with Joe, because Joe didn’t get to the dangerous positions,” Lyon said.

“So it’s (a lack of) work-rate, intent and game knowledge.”

Daniher’s best and worst was on display that day in 2017 when he was such a prime target in the Bombers’ attack.

He took four contested marks among 13 overall, but blighted his performance with a 1.6 return and put two other shots out on the full.

Daniher was an All Australian for the first time by season’s end, and only Lance Franklin and Josh Kennedy kicked more than his 65 goals.

But his paltry 0.3 weekend effort was his second goalless game for the year and leaves him with seven majors from six matches – and outside the competition’s top 40.

Champion Data’s relative ratings, which reflect a player’s performance based on age and position, have him at minus-35 per cent in 2018, as opposed to being plus-44 per cent the past two seasons.

Daniher isn’t faring well against fellow 24-year-old key forwards, with teammate James Stewart (+2.4%), Mitch McGovern (-1.3%) and Tim O’Brien (-19%) all out-performing him.

Damningly, he is also rated below average in pressure acts.

Daniher’s goalkicking is almost as bad as ever, too, slumping to a five-year low of 30.4 per cent.

His tally comprises seven goals, nine behinds and seven complete misses, after being no worse than 45.2 per cent in the previous four years and peaking at 56 per cent in 2017.

Hawthorn champion Jason Dunstall has called for the 201cm giant to overhaul his routine as he resorts to kicks around the body on otherwise standard shots at goal.

Either way, Daniher clearly has work to do to regain his peers’ faith.

Thanks for that. I’m pretty sure I just saw the stats one of the tv stations showed in one of our games

aboods · January 9, 2019, 5:26am

Exactly.
But it does disprove the idea we just kept kicking it to Joe in 2018

Fozdog · January 9, 2019, 6:56am

Bobby Axlerod?

JohnRain · January 9, 2019, 7:02am

Billions? Haven’t seen it, but will follow up.

Finding_Nino · January 9, 2019, 7:27am

I’m resigned to him not being their rd 1

Dons-All-The-Way · January 9, 2019, 9:05am

Have thought for years we got hard done by for frees inside 50. Nice to know I am not imagining things.

Hurley_s_left_boot · January 10, 2019, 9:32am

Judd Lalich just posted on Twitter that he’s hearing rumours JD won’t be available for early rounds of season as is that far behind in his recovery.

samwoods · January 10, 2019, 9:38am

We’ve got blokes on here that probably started the rumour.

Henry_s_Angry_Pills · January 10, 2019, 9:39am

Don’t reckon you’ve quite grasped that twitter acct.

Hurley_s_left_boot · January 10, 2019, 9:42am

Don’t shoot the messenger

cul_de_sac · January 10, 2019, 10:16am

Henry_s_Angry_Pills:

Calling it “heart” is incorrect, IMO.
We weren’t shirking. The tackle and contested ball and clearance numbers (and scoreboard) would make it starkly obvious if that were the case.
We were just playing poop.

It was cohesion, it was gameplan, and it was adherence and belief in the game plan. (And a handful of other little things).

The one who should go at the contest, going -
and the one who should stay out for the spill, staying out for the spill.
And the next one along who should make a run to the left to draw out the defender, making a run to the left. Not going the other way for a cheapie.
The one who should stick on his man all the way, sticking on his man all the way.
Your teammate leading where he should lead, not getting in someone else’s way.

And on and on and on.

And it did not get better with the flick of the switch. It took 6 or 8 weeks, from the nadir of ANZAC day, to the peak of slapping WCE in Perth. And there were ups and downs within that too.

Nah, we lost to Carlton, fired Neeld, suspended Daniher internally for lying and sooking and then everyone just decided to play good footy instead of to trying to play bad footy like we were clearly doing.

Begbie · January 10, 2019, 10:20am

He’s not Judd Lalich ya know?

miss_ellie · January 10, 2019, 11:07am

Am happy for him to come back when he is fully recovered.

Second half of the season would be OK, get some match fitness and ready to play finals.

8485backtoback · January 10, 2019, 11:57am

Joey will be fine
He has had a big rest - rearing to go I reckon
Lets be positive

Finding_Nino · January 10, 2019, 12:09pm

Wouldn’t surprise me tbh as i said in another thread I’m resigned to him not playing rd 1

aboods · January 10, 2019, 12:10pm

But you’re negative about everything

Finding_Nino · January 10, 2019, 12:13pm

Actually I’m not I’m very excited for the season ahead.

Daniher not yet traning the only negtaive so far this pre season