#8 Jason Winderlich


#1581

Whenever I need recycled timber, I call Just Eco.

And so should you.

Just Eco.


#1582

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Look, it's just my view. I said last year he should have been allowed to retire - I didn't rate his games outside the back half, and we are over-flowing with backline options. Given the stories about the shape of his body, it would always be a long shot that we would get that much out of him.

Sure, in draft picks keeping him around doesn't make a huge difference, just a 3rd round rookie pick. But it would be a chunk of salary cap between him and a 3rd round rookie, and it would have been a chance to add another tall and maybe some more balance to the list. Obviously this might never have happened, but how much better would the list look if we'd taken Mitch Brown with our 3rd rookie pick?

I really just mentioned it because I thought it was a bad decision at the time, and I'm a little angry at the club with the move, and upset for Winders that this is how he may go out. He's always been an unlucky guy.

This is a reason the club struggles IMO, Sentiment over running the club like a business.

In a perfect world we'd all love Winder to be out there for 26 odd games a year. The reality was he was going to be lucky to play 15 at best.
Then you add ontop of that the mentality save him for finals, sure hey you over there play 20 odd games this year, but if we make it to the finals, you're not playing cos we've got Winder set up for that spot.

in the end it doesn't look like much, as some say it's one spot, pick 70 odd whatever. You can't run a success onfield business when you're banking on injured players not being injured. Happened with gumby and continues to happen.

from a club pov they've gotta be more ruthless.

from a player pov you've just gotta feel sorry for the bloke, loves essendon, essendon loves him and he just can't get out and do what he loves doing.


#1583

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Look, it's just my view. I said last year he should have been allowed to retire - I didn't rate his games outside the back half, and we are over-flowing with backline options. Given the stories about the shape of his body, it would always be a long shot that we would get that much out of him.

Sure, in draft picks keeping him around doesn't make a huge difference, just a 3rd round rookie pick. But it would be a chunk of salary cap between him and a 3rd round rookie, and it would have been a chance to add another tall and maybe some more balance to the list. Obviously this might never have happened, but how much better would the list look if we'd taken Mitch Brown with our 3rd rookie pick?

I really just mentioned it because I thought it was a bad decision at the time, and I'm a little angry at the club with the move, and upset for Winders that this is how he may go out. He's always been an unlucky guy.

This is a reason the club struggles IMO, Sentiment over running the club like a business.

In a perfect world we'd all love Winder to be out there for 26 odd games a year. The reality was he was going to be lucky to play 15 at best.
Then you add ontop of that the mentality save him for finals, sure hey you over there play 20 odd games this year, but if we make it to the finals, you're not playing cos we've got Winder set up for that spot.

in the end it doesn't look like much, as some say it's one spot, pick 70 odd whatever. You can't run a success onfield business when you're banking on injured players not being injured. Happened with gumby and continues to happen.

from a club pov they've gotta be more ruthless.

from a player pov you've just gotta feel sorry for the bloke, loves essendon, essendon loves him and he just can't get out and do what he loves doing.

Freo not running a business then.


#1584

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Look, it's just my view. I said last year he should have been allowed to retire - I didn't rate his games outside the back half, and we are over-flowing with backline options. Given the stories about the shape of his body, it would always be a long shot that we would get that much out of him.

Sure, in draft picks keeping him around doesn't make a huge difference, just a 3rd round rookie pick. But it would be a chunk of salary cap between him and a 3rd round rookie, and it would have been a chance to add another tall and maybe some more balance to the list. Obviously this might never have happened, but how much better would the list look if we'd taken Mitch Brown with our 3rd rookie pick?

I really just mentioned it because I thought it was a bad decision at the time, and I'm a little angry at the club with the move, and upset for Winders that this is how he may go out. He's always been an unlucky guy.

This is a reason the club struggles IMO, Sentiment over running the club like a business.

In a perfect world we'd all love Winder to be out there for 26 odd games a year. The reality was he was going to be lucky to play 15 at best.
Then you add ontop of that the mentality save him for finals, sure hey you over there play 20 odd games this year, but if we make it to the finals, you're not playing cos we've got Winder set up for that spot.

in the end it doesn't look like much, as some say it's one spot, pick 70 odd whatever. You can't run a success onfield business when you're banking on injured players not being injured. Happened with gumby and continues to happen.

from a club pov they've gotta be more ruthless.

from a player pov you've just gotta feel sorry for the bloke, loves essendon, essendon loves him and he just can't get out and do what he loves doing.

This is what has built our culture, and why players-through such huge adversity over the last couple of years, have stayed loyal.

Whatever we may deemed to have lost on a few individual cases of what you deem as sentiment, we have got back in spades in what we are calling in 2015,and what truly is- the 'fabric' of our club.


#1585
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Look, it's just my view. I said last year he should have been allowed to retire - I didn't rate his games outside the back half, and we are over-flowing with backline options. Given the stories about the shape of his body, it would always be a long shot that we would get that much out of him.

Sure, in draft picks keeping him around doesn't make a huge difference, just a 3rd round rookie pick. But it would be a chunk of salary cap between him and a 3rd round rookie, and it would have been a chance to add another tall and maybe some more balance to the list. Obviously this might never have happened, but how much better would the list look if we'd taken Mitch Brown with our 3rd rookie pick?

I really just mentioned it because I thought it was a bad decision at the time, and I'm a little angry at the club with the move, and upset for Winders that this is how he may go out. He's always been an unlucky guy.

This is a reason the club struggles IMO, Sentiment over running the club like a business.

In a perfect world we'd all love Winder to be out there for 26 odd games a year. The reality was he was going to be lucky to play 15 at best.
Then you add ontop of that the mentality save him for finals, sure hey you over there play 20 odd games this year, but if we make it to the finals, you're not playing cos we've got Winder set up for that spot.

in the end it doesn't look like much, as some say it's one spot, pick 70 odd whatever. You can't run a success onfield business when you're banking on injured players not being injured. Happened with gumby and continues to happen.

from a club pov they've gotta be more ruthless.

from a player pov you've just gotta feel sorry for the bloke, loves essendon, essendon loves him and he just can't get out and do what he loves doing.

Freo not running a business then.

Hawthorn too (keeping Croad for his last 2-3 years, Bailey's entire career, and taking Stewie Dew when he was 130kg).


#1586

I think he had a pretty good idea of where his back was at last year. He got talked into coming back for one more year on the hope that this team could do well and it would be a shame if he missed out.

Disc problems are not something that is conducive exercise to the game of AFL. Particularly, if its been a long term problem. I'm speaking from experience about the injury itself. It is a very debilitating injury.

Licka, I hope you do whatever is best for you and your family.


#1587

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Understand the sentiment, and entirely agree about unfulfilled potential (although fingers crossed he comes good in the second half of the year), but for me he's below someone like Dean Rioli as a 100 odd game player. And they'd both be well below Ramanauskas who'd be below Neale Daniher.

Fair to say Essendon have had a shocking run over the years....And that doesn't even include the many many games that guys like hird missed)

l would have Neale Daniher second on the list of great Essendon players around the 100 game, behind that bloke Coleman, reports are that he went okay, and could play a bit.


#1588

Winder placed on LTI................

It might be over. Damn.


#1589

Shaun McKernan brought on.


#1590

8wks minimum Doc Reid said IIRC

Makes sense to put him on LTI

Hope he can get back on park for latter half of season.


#1591

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Winder placed on LTI................

It might be over. Damn.

Hope l am wrong, but l don't think he will be back.


#1592

I think you are.

I wonder if there may even be a bit of ducks & drakes afoot,... in that we really want him for the back end anyway, & he may even be on a 10 - 12 game contract.

His "back" going now, let's us get SMc in now, which we likely need much more than Licha at this point.

Stranger things have happened.. & Unca Sheeds is #backin.

Windy Hill Flu = Tullamarine Disc slip.???


#1593

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I think you are.

I wonder if there may even be a bit of ducks & drakes afoot,... in that we really want him for the back end anyway, & he may even be on a 10 - 12 game contract.

His "back" going now, let's us get SMc in now, which we likely need much more than Licha at this point.

Stranger things have happened.. & Unca Sheeds is #backin.

Windy Hill Flu = Tullamarine Disc slip.???


I'm pretty sure the AFL medicos have to sign off LTI's

#1594

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Look, it's just my view. I said last year he should have been allowed to retire - I didn't rate his games outside the back half, and we are over-flowing with backline options. Given the stories about the shape of his body, it would always be a long shot that we would get that much out of him.

Sure, in draft picks keeping him around doesn't make a huge difference, just a 3rd round rookie pick. But it would be a chunk of salary cap between him and a 3rd round rookie, and it would have been a chance to add another tall and maybe some more balance to the list. Obviously this might never have happened, but how much better would the list look if we'd taken Mitch Brown with our 3rd rookie pick?

I really just mentioned it because I thought it was a bad decision at the time, and I'm a little angry at the club with the move, and upset for Winders that this is how he may go out. He's always been an unlucky guy.

This is a reason the club struggles IMO, Sentiment over running the club like a business.

In a perfect world we'd all love Winder to be out there for 26 odd games a year. The reality was he was going to be lucky to play 15 at best.
Then you add ontop of that the mentality save him for finals, sure hey you over there play 20 odd games this year, but if we make it to the finals, you're not playing cos we've got Winder set up for that spot.

in the end it doesn't look like much, as some say it's one spot, pick 70 odd whatever. You can't run a success onfield business when you're banking on injured players not being injured. Happened with gumby and continues to happen.

from a club pov they've gotta be more ruthless.

from a player pov you've just gotta feel sorry for the bloke, loves essendon, essendon loves him and he just can't get out and do what he loves doing.

This is what has built our culture, and why players-through such huge adversity over the last couple of years, have stayed loyal.

Whatever we may deemed to have lost on a few individual cases of what you deem as sentiment, we have got back in spades in what we are calling in 2015,and what truly is- the 'fabric' of our club.

While I agree that it's the reason we have the culture we have, however since mid 2000's the landscape of the game has changed and like it or not it's ultimately a business now.

You can run it on sentiment and go no where, or run it like a business and hopefully succeed.


#1595

Gutted for the bloke.


#1596

AND any successful yoghurt too don't forget, .. so..


#1597

Did someone call?


#1598

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Look, it's just my view. I said last year he should have been allowed to retire - I didn't rate his games outside the back half, and we are over-flowing with backline options. Given the stories about the shape of his body, it would always be a long shot that we would get that much out of him.

Sure, in draft picks keeping him around doesn't make a huge difference, just a 3rd round rookie pick. But it would be a chunk of salary cap between him and a 3rd round rookie, and it would have been a chance to add another tall and maybe some more balance to the list. Obviously this might never have happened, but how much better would the list look if we'd taken Mitch Brown with our 3rd rookie pick?

I really just mentioned it because I thought it was a bad decision at the time, and I'm a little angry at the club with the move, and upset for Winders that this is how he may go out. He's always been an unlucky guy.

This is a reason the club struggles IMO, Sentiment over running the club like a business.

In a perfect world we'd all love Winder to be out there for 26 odd games a year. The reality was he was going to be lucky to play 15 at best.
Then you add ontop of that the mentality save him for finals, sure hey you over there play 20 odd games this year, but if we make it to the finals, you're not playing cos we've got Winder set up for that spot.

in the end it doesn't look like much, as some say it's one spot, pick 70 odd whatever. You can't run a success onfield business when you're banking on injured players not being injured. Happened with gumby and continues to happen.

from a club pov they've gotta be more ruthless.

from a player pov you've just gotta feel sorry for the bloke, loves essendon, essendon loves him and he just can't get out and do what he loves doing.

This is what has built our culture, and why players-through such huge adversity over the last couple of years, have stayed loyal.

Whatever we may deemed to have lost on a few individual cases of what you deem as sentiment, we have got back in spades in what we are calling in 2015,and what truly is- the 'fabric' of our club.

While I agree that it's the reason we have the culture we have, however since mid 2000's the landscape of the game has changed and like it or not it's ultimately a business now.

You can run it on sentiment and go no where, or run it like a business and hopefully succeed.

but theres this thing called corporate culture, the two can, and do co-exist


#1599

Football is not a business. Football is about winning footy matches & flags. Fans don't demand dividends they demand winning. Clubs don't even need to be financially viable as the AFL & richer clubs prop them up. But absolutely the business segment of a footy club is important as being flushed with $$$s helps fund the support facilities, so the business of footy is one piece of the puzzle which needs to be solved to improve the chance of success.


#1600

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Did someone call?


I still don't get that 'meme'.