Adrian Dodoro - Flankers into Mids since 2000 (Part 1)

So out of 44 players Dodoro gets about 22 picks and the other guy gets the rest for pure mids?

Arguing about who we have drafted or should have drafted is irrelevant. The bottom line is we have not won a final for 15 years. We are also languishing around the bottom of the pile. We dont look to be going anywhere in the foreseeable future.
All this add up to a lack of class players. Blame who you like, it in an undeniable fact.

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Yeh Iā€™m thinking
ā€˜pick number 5 essendon football clubā€™ā€¦
midfield specialist: ā€˜adrian just step out of the room for a bit and come back in an hour or so, thanks mateā€™.

How come weā€™ve only got pick 5? Are we going to trade down?

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If you take out Martin and maybe Cotchin/Jack, who else are class players at Richmond? Most of them are patched up footballers who are playing stellar football.

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as did Laverde. And we try to turn them into mids. Crazy ā– ā– ā– ā– 

LAV played everywhere. Was touted as big bodied mid/ Goddard like utility but with wheels.

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Well they got that wrong. Granted I never saw him play but the highlights I saw were of him marking the ball around 50 and kicking goals

In my opinion he is no good. A bit Like the Tarzan and Jane analogy

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ā€˜theyā€™re wrong because i didnā€™t watch him, and when i did it was a fkg highlight videoā€™

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Hey Ice, I respect your right to your opinion but I would say that Rance is a very classy player. Many would include Houli deledio and Prestia.
Who would you say are class a EFC except Joe and maybe Zerrett.

Deledio plays for GWS.

Many players come into AFL system and donā€™t have tank to play midfield immediately despite them doing so in juniors.

LAV was started in fwd line in AFL. Then injuries continually preventing him building up to be able to be deployed in midfield more

Was flying preseason and injured again, now working back from that still. And frankly our fwd line wouldnā€™t have been great to be a part of recent times. Poor ball movement/lack of inside 50ā€™s

IMO LAV probably needs what Lang has had happen and thatā€™s a solid run in midfield in VFL, hasnā€™t had any opportunity for that part of his development yet.

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Yeah you got me there. Sounds pretty stupid lol

Anyway heā€™s still a spud

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Injuries have cruelled him no doubt. I hope you guys are right. Maybe needs a bit of confidence

I donā€™t think Rance is as classy as the media make him out to be, but thatā€™s just my opinion. Houli isnā€™t classy imo either, he is hard working though and Deledio is at GWS when not injured. Prestia yeah I would probably accept that one (I really wanted us to get him).

Zerret, Fantasia, JoeDan (when not injured), McGrath, Stringer (if fit and firing), Smith are all classy players imo. Conor isnā€™t bad when in full flight as well, itā€™s just his kicking style looks ungainly which can wreck the classy look lol.

How was he ā€œflying pre seasonā€?

He didnā€™t play a JLT game so how are you judging his ā€œflyingā€?

Training reports had him blitzing the running in his group. Was a noted standout in match sim also. Then injury struck.

As per the below heā€™d done extra work and was lining up for a big 2018

@Revie

Unfortunately running PBā€™s doesnā€™t equate to being a good footballer and so far heā€™s shown ā– ā– ā– ā–  all to suggest he will be a good footballer at AFL level.

Sure being fit makes a big difference and injuries have hindered him so far but good players still show glimpses and i would argue heā€™s barely done that at best. His lack of agility is a major concern and he basically runs on tram tracks.

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Our problem is we never really get our players to the elite category, like your GAJ, selwood, Parker etc. They hover around B+ grade with the couple of years at A grade but thats it. There is no 4-5 years of continual A grade output. Until we find and then develop those sort of players we will never get close to top 4

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Are you confusing class with classy or flashy? I consider players as ā€œclassā€ if they are at or near the best at what they do. By that standard Rance is absolutely a class player way way more than our players youā€™ve listed. If youā€™re talking about classy or flashy players Iā€™d argue those types of players are less critical to getting to the top parts of the ladder than guys who routinely play at a high level.

Iā€™d like to know who you consider as patched up players at Richmond? Prestia and Caddy are both very good players for mine,. Lambert is underrated and even guys like Vlaustin and Ellis are capable of top quality football. Houli is clearly one of the most effective rebounders in the league so while I donā€™t rate him as overly classy he is a class performer. Nankervis has been right up near the best performed rucks over the last 18 months.

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