AFLPA : Some interesting stuff here

Football Discussion Dustin Fletcher Hangar
1

Maybe this slipped under the radar:  I havent seen it before and never visited the AFALPA site until today.

 

This is what Jobe says about the kids .

 

http://www.aflplayers.com.au/article/watson-on-the-baby-bombers/

 

	WATSON ON THE BABY BOMBERS
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:11px;">By&nbsp;<span>Sam McInerney</span></span>&nbsp;

	Sep 4, 2014<div style="margin:20px 0px 10px;">
<div><a  class="" href="http://www.aflplayers.com.au/wp-content/themes/cr-aflpa/#" title="Facebook"><span><span>Share on facebook</span></span></a><a  class="" href="http://www.aflplayers.com.au/wp-content/themes/cr-aflpa/#" title="Tweet"><span><span>Share on twitter</span></span></a><a  class="" href="http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=300&amp;winname=addthis&amp;pub=ra-522671867e7f68fe&amp;source=tbx32-300&amp;lng=en-US&amp;s=google_plusone_share&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aflplayers.com.au%2Farticle%2Fwatson-on-the-baby-bombers%2F&amp;title=Watson%20on%20the%20Baby%20Bombers%20-%20AFL%20Players&amp;ate=AT-ra-522671867e7f68fe/-/-/546bc653dab825cf/2&amp;frommenu=1&amp;uid=546bc6538e623394&amp;ct=1&amp;pre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aflplayers.com.au%2Farticle%2Firish-bolters-linguistic-hurdle%2F&amp;tt=0&amp;captcha_provider=nucaptcha" title="Google+"><span><span>Share on google_plusone_share</span></span></a><a  class="" href="http://www.aflplayers.com.au/wp-content/themes/cr-aflpa/#" title="Email"><span><span>Share on email</span></span></a><a  class="" href="http://www.aflplayers.com.au/wp-content/themes/cr-aflpa/#" title="View more services">0</a>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
</div>

The 2014 AFL season has seen a new generation of superstars make their mark on the competition â€“ to celebrate, the AFL Players‘ Association is calling on all footy fans to help pick this year‘s 22Under22 team. Click here to create yours.

The Bombers are just two days away from what could be their first finals win in a decade.

Only three players – skipper Jobe Watson, injured defender Dustin Fletcher and midfielder Brent Stanton â€“ remain from the side that defeated Melbourne in the 2004 elimination final at the MCG.

Though there have been a few false dawns since then, Essendon now appears to be building a team capable of pushing into the top four in coming seasons. aflplayers.com.au spoke to captain Jobe Watson a few weeks out from finals, to get his take on the next generation of ‘Baby Bombers‘.

22-under-22-2014-nominees.jpg

	DYSON HEPPELL
<p>The 22-year-old midfielder just keeps getting better. After winning the Rising Star in 2011, his debut season, Heppell managed to avoid second-year blues and began to shape himself as a genuine inside midfielder. He has continued to develop, and in 2014 arrived as one of the game‘s elite.</p>
<p>Asked whether he noticed Heppell stepping up in his absence,<strong>&nbsp;Watson said:</strong></p>
<p>“I think he and a few of the other guys have taken more ownership and you just see him imposing himself in games.&nbsp;That‘s been the biggest difference for me, from this year compared with last year – how much he‘s imposing himself on games consistently and how big an influence he‘s having on the team.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>“HE‘S A GOOD TEAMMATE. THE GUYS REALLY LIKE PLAYING WITH HIM” – WATSON ON JAKE CARLISLE</p>
</blockquote>
<p>“He‘s a really great teammate – very caring but is always striving to get the best out of himself. He‘s never content with where he‘s at, and that‘s why he‘s continuing to develop.</p>
<p>“Since he‘s joined the leadership group, he‘s just developing and demanding more from his teammates.”</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://aflplayers.com.au/article/the-rise-and-rise-of-dyson-heppell/'><strong>Read about the rise and rise of Dyson Heppell</strong></a></p>

	JAKE CARLISLE
<p>Having held down a key post in Essendon‘s backline throughout much of 2013, Carlisle has enjoyed a very different season in 2014 – playing mainly as a key forward.</p>
<p><strong>Watson says:</strong></p>
<p>“It‘s obviously a very different position to play, but we‘re starting to see some really good signs out of him in his ability to take contested marks. He reads the play really well, has a big engine, and is a good teammate. The guys really like playing with him, and I think he‘ll really develop and blossom as a forward.</p>
<p>“He‘s always got the flexibility to move down back, but I think the more he plays there in the forward line, the more we‘ll start to see some of that form that he showed last year. It‘s probably just been a big challenge to change from one position to the other because they‘re very different in how you play. But he‘s willing to learn and continue to develop as a forward.”</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<div></div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.aflplayers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/A-couple-to-watch-in-2015.jpg'><img height="99" src="http://www.aflplayers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/A-couple-to-watch-in-2015.jpg" width="1187" alt="A-couple-to-watch-in-2015.jpg"></a></p>

	JOE DANIHER
<p>Like Carlisle, Daniher has plenty of development left in him but has already showed he‘s capable of influencing the outcome of AFL games. Daniher is incredibly agile for a 201cm key forward, and is likely to be the focal point in Essendon‘s front half for the next decade.</p>
<p><strong>Watson says:</strong></p>
<p>“Joey‘s playing more consistently in the AFL this year. He‘s still very raw and has a lot to work on physically and mentally, but he‘s not afraid to be coached hard from the coaches and his teammates. He‘s got a real desire to be as good as he possibly can be.”</p>

	THE MERRETT BROTHERS
<p>The Merretts have played 33 games between them so far in 2014.</p>
<p><strong>Watson says:</strong></p>
<p>“They‘re different people – very different. I don‘t know Zach as well as I do Jackson, but… brothers are funny because people expect them to be the same but they end up being totally different people and different players.</p>
<p>“They live together, and are both very competitive; probably Zach being the younger brother, he‘s always copped it from Jackson. They‘ve got some similarities – both country kids who are highly competitive, very team oriented.</p>

	ZACH MERRETT
<p>Having been selected with Essendon‘s first pick in the 2013 National Draft, the younger Merrett has enjoyed a stellar debut season.</p>
<p><strong>Watson says:</strong></p>
<p>“Zach‘s playing in his first year, so what he‘s been able to do in his first year – playing nearly every game – he‘s just being able to have a real influence whether it‘s as sub or starting on the ground. He‘s just really easy to play with, very skilful, reads the game really well and has become an important part of the side.”</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<div></div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>

	JACKSON MERRETT
<p>The older Merrett started the season in cracking form, carving up Carlton in Round 3 with 35 possessions, eight inside 50s and five clearances. He hasn‘t played since Round 19, but has improved on his 2013 and could come into 22Under22 calculations next year.</p>
<p><strong>Watson says:</strong></p>
<p>“Jacko‘s in his third year. He‘s a different style to his brother – plays a bit more sort of wing/half-forward. Jacko‘s starting to find some real consistency – he‘s had breakout games this year and is having games where he‘s really influencing the game offensively. He‘s always been good defensively, but he‘s starting to get a good balance into his game.</p>
<p>“He‘s continuing to work really hard and loves being coached hard. He‘s actually really starting to develop his own leadership as well. He‘s hard on his teammates, demands high standards and demands respect.”</p>

	MARTY GLEESON
<p>The lean running defender started the season in scintillating form before injuries curtailed his run. Gleeson started as sub against Carlton last week, but kicked an important goal in the final quarter.</p>
<p><strong>Watson says:</strong></p>
<p>“Marty played a lot of footy early and has been dogged a little bit by injury in the second half of the year. He‘s got some attributes that we really like. He‘s easy to coach, a beautiful mover – he‘s going to develop into a really strong half-back/wingman.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>“WE‘VE SEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN HIM IN A SHORT SPACE OF TIME” – WATSON ON MARTY GLEESON</p>
</blockquote>
<p>“He‘s a good decision-maker – very calm with the ball and we‘ve seen a lot of development in him in a short space of time. He was pretty raw when he got here and probably still needs to develop his body, but his ability to make good decisions will make him a great player.”</p>

	JASON ASHBY
<p>Ashby made his AFL debut in Round 3 this season, and played 5 games for the year. With another pre-season under his belt, Watson says the 19-year-old will be one to watch in 2015.</p>
<p><strong>Watson says:</strong></p>
<p>“Similar to Marty – A lean, tall, running half-back flanker. Jason‘s best attribute is probably his competitiveness. He hates being beaten and is a great one on one player. Continues to demand high standards – a lot like Jackson Merrett, very similar personalities in that they really drive their teammates and want to get the best out of themselves. They‘ve still got to develop like all the young kids do but they‘re not afraid of hard work and there‘s no ceiling on what they can achieve.</p>
<p>“Jase is living with me – he moved in a few months ago – so that‘s going well.”</p>

	<strong>ELLIOT KAVANAGH</strong>
<p>Highly-rated as a junior, Kavanagh&nbsp;played just three matches in 2014, but has shown promising signs for Essendon‘s VFL team throughout the season.</p>
<p><strong>Watson says:</strong></p>
<p>“We‘ve seen some really good signs from him. He‘s a midfielder, uses the ball really well, good runner. We‘re trying to get him to develop more as a forward player as well to give him a flexibility. He will slowly develop that – it‘s tough when you‘ve come from playing in the midfield.</p>
<p>“We‘re starting to see some really good signs from his competitiveness and his ability to win the ball and I think he‘ll continue to develop that.”</p>
2

Sorry.  I left the caps lock on in the title..... drat.

3

Thanks for that mate - was good insight :)

4


 

JACKSON MERRETT........

“He‘s continuing to work really hard and loves being coached hard. He‘s actually really starting to develop his own leadership as well. He‘s hard on his teammates, demands high standards and demands respect.”

.”

 

 

Is this the same bloke we've seen play?  Surprising observation, as this is certainly not apparent from the other side of the fence - seems a little detached and reserved to me.  Obviously deceptive.

5


JACKSON MERRETT........
“He‘s continuing to work really hard and loves being coached hard. He‘s actually really starting to develop his own leadership as well. He‘s hard on his teammates, demands high standards and demands respect.”.”
Is this the same bloke we've seen play? Surprising observation, as this is certainly not apparent from the other side of the fence - seems a little detached and reserved to me. Obviously deceptive.


I think if that is true then it is a bit of double standard as he doesn't seem to have set the same requirements and standards of himself that he is obviously requesting of his teammates.
I get that all players have to push one another to set a precedent and a level of requirement from each other but I think he should focus on getting his hands on the ball and improving as a player before trying to develop his leadership attributes.
Focus on your footy and the rest will come naturally and take care of itself.
6

What’s to say that Jackson isn’t setting high standards for himself?

7

Ever set a standard for yourself that seemed unrealistic at first but then you surprised yourself by achieving it, then called out your own name in celebration?

8

What's to say that Jackson isn't setting high standards for himself?


His performances.
9

 

JACKSON MERRETT........
“He‘s continuing to work really hard and loves being coached hard. He‘s actually really starting to develop his own leadership as well. He‘s hard on his teammates, demands high standards and demands respect.”.”
Is this the same bloke we've seen play? Surprising observation, as this is certainly not apparent from the other side of the fence - seems a little detached and reserved to me. Obviously deceptive.


I think if that is true then it is a bit of double standard as he doesn't seem to have set the same requirements and standards of himself that he is obviously requesting of his teammates.
I get that all players have to push one another to set a precedent and a level of requirement from each other but I think he should focus on getting his hands on the ball and improving as a player before trying to develop his leadership attributes.
Focus on your footy and the rest will come naturally and take care of itself.

 

 

Exactly Black Kavanagh.  Seems like maybe you played team sport sometime in the past and understand team dynamics?. 

10


JACKSON MERRETT........
“He‘s continuing to work really hard and loves being coached hard. He‘s actually really starting to develop his own leadership as well. He‘s hard on his teammates, demands high standards and demands respect.”.”
Is this the same bloke we've seen play? Surprising observation, as this is certainly not apparent from the other side of the fence - seems a little detached and reserved to me. Obviously deceptive.

I think if that is true then it is a bit of double standard as he doesn't seem to have set the same requirements and standards of himself that he is obviously requesting of his teammates.
I get that all players have to push one another to set a precedent and a level of requirement from each other but I think he should focus on getting his hands on the ball and improving as a player before trying to develop his leadership attributes.
Focus on your footy and the rest will come naturally and take care of itself.

Exactly Black Kavanagh. Seems like maybe you played team sport sometime in the past and understand team dynamics?.

Played a fair bit of footy growing up and have played a variety of team sports throughout my life.
I have grown into a big watcher of most sports and would like to think I have a pretty good understanding of team dynamics and player roles although I'm sure there would be some who would disagree.
Jackson has to learn that we have enough chiefs and that he is an Indian who hopefully one day can develop into a chief but first he must focus on developing as a player and improving.
11

 

 

 

JACKSON MERRETT........
“He‘s continuing to work really hard and loves being coached hard. He‘s actually really starting to develop his own leadership as well. He‘s hard on his teammates, demands high standards and demands respect.”.”
Is this the same bloke we've seen play? Surprising observation, as this is certainly not apparent from the other side of the fence - seems a little detached and reserved to me. Obviously deceptive.

I think if that is true then it is a bit of double standard as he doesn't seem to have set the same requirements and standards of himself that he is obviously requesting of his teammates.
I get that all players have to push one another to set a precedent and a level of requirement from each other but I think he should focus on getting his hands on the ball and improving as a player before trying to develop his leadership attributes.
Focus on your footy and the rest will come naturally and take care of itself.

Exactly Black Kavanagh. Seems like maybe you played team sport sometime in the past and understand team dynamics?.

Played a fair bit of footy growing up and have played a variety of team sports throughout my life.
I have grown into a big watcher of most sports and would like to think I have a pretty good understanding of team dynamics and player roles although I'm sure there would be some who would disagree.
Jackson has to learn that we have enough chiefs and that he is an Indian who hopefully one day can develop into a chief but first he must focus on developing as a player and improving.

 

 

I am with you. I just had the feeling when I played sport that if I started criticising / urging on players who were better than me they would probably have told me to get fxxxed and learn to play better myself.  If your teammates dont rate you,  they will not kick to you if there is an equal option,  so you can be standing in a paddock calling for the ball and they will give it to a better player most of the time.  That can lead to frustration and maybe criticising  your teammates.  Perhaps thats what we are talking about here ?   The only solution is to win your own ball and use it well,  then players will seek you out on the field.

12

Thanks Chris, I hadn’t seen that.

13


JACKSON MERRETT........
“He‘s continuing to work really hard and loves being coached hard. He‘s actually really starting to develop his own leadership as well. He‘s hard on his teammates, demands high standards and demands respect.”.”
Is this the same bloke we've seen play? Surprising observation, as this is certainly not apparent from the other side of the fence - seems a little detached and reserved to me. Obviously deceptive.

I think if that is true then it is a bit of double standard as he doesn't seem to have set the same requirements and standards of himself that he is obviously requesting of his teammates.
I get that all players have to push one another to set a precedent and a level of requirement from each other but I think he should focus on getting his hands on the ball and improving as a player before trying to develop his leadership attributes.
Focus on your footy and the rest will come naturally and take care of itself.
Exactly Black Kavanagh. Seems like maybe you played team sport sometime in the past and understand team dynamics?.
Played a fair bit of footy growing up and have played a variety of team sports throughout my life.
I have grown into a big watcher of most sports and would like to think I have a pretty good understanding of team dynamics and player roles although I'm sure there would be some who would disagree.
Jackson has to learn that we have enough chiefs and that he is an Indian who hopefully one day can develop into a chief but first he must focus on developing as a player and improving.

I am with you. I just had the feeling when I played sport that if I started criticising / urging on players who were better than me they would probably have told me to get fxxxed and learn to play better myself. If your teammates dont rate you, they will not kick to you if there is an equal option, so you can be standing in a paddock calling for the ball and they will give it to a better player most of the time. That can lead to frustration and maybe criticising your teammates. Perhaps thats what we are talking about here ? The only solution is to win your own ball and use it well, then players will seek you out on the field.

Doubt there is anything like that going on and if anything of that nature happened at AFL level I think the coaching staff would knock it on the head immediately as it would develop a very demoralising and daunting culture for any new players.
He just has to keep developing and improving which I hope he can.
I have been quite harsh on him so far and personally don't see him becoming much of player but I could be overly wrong (most likely).
I think it is a bit rich however that there seems to be a lot of love on here for him despite playing very little good, let alone consistent football and yet it appears most people here have written off Kavanagh despite showing some very promising signs in my opinion and yet hasn't been afforded the run of games that Jackson or Melksham have.
Just my 2 cents worth.
14

Very interesting indeed Chris - thank you very much for posting it.

15

Thanks C64. Really interesting, and hadn’t seen it before.

I do disagree with you and BK on Jackson Merrett though.

Watson is clearly happy with his developing leadership skills, and comments on how hard he works himself as well as others. I think this is an indication that the club rates those traits and wants to develop them. It really sounds like Jobe thinks Jackson is a leader amongst the kids, which has to be a good thing.

As for what people see in him. I see a quickish mid/fwd with very clean hands and a quality all round game. He’s been a bit up and down so far, but has shown he can genuinely play. He’s also obviously a favourite of the coaches, and I think he’s we’ll placed to really make an impact over the next couple of years.

16

Thanks C64. Really interesting, and hadn't seen it before.
I do disagree with you and BK on Jackson Merrett though.
Watson is clearly happy with his developing leadership skills, and comments on how hard he works himself as well as others. I think this is an indication that the club rates those traits and wants to develop them. It really sounds like Jobe thinks Jackson is a leader amongst the kids, which has to be a good thing.
As for what people see in him. I see a quickish mid/fwd with very clean hands and a quality all round game. He's been a bit up and down so far, but has shown he can genuinely play. He's also obviously a favourite of the coaches, and I think he's we'll placed to really make an impact over the next couple of years.

 

Frosty,  I guess anyones game can surge ahead ,  then drop back a bit.   I think he was dropped back to the 2s for the last half of last year, and maybe that was more that others were favoured for the 22 rather than him. Being dropped can cut 2 ways,  make you want to really try a lot harder in the 2s to break back into the AFL,  or get disheartened.   I certainly hope he tries hard to get back in,  but its getting harder and harder,  because the quality of the AFL team seems to be increasing at least on paper.  Even if not in 2015 due to injury,  2016 will see some retirements and spots will open up again and his time in the  AFL in 13/14 will help him hit the ground running. 

17

Some are reading a lot in to comments from a captain jus mt trying to back a few young teammates in.

18

Don’t worry about the merret boys, both will be guns. Harder to play a more outside game for Jackson but he will come on. Zach will roll into the middle I’ve the next two years and be unstoppable.

19

Some are reading a lot in to comments from a captain jus mt trying to back a few young teammates in.

It is Blitz, and it is the off-season.
20

What's to say that Jackson isn't setting high standards for himself?

His performances.

He's the whipping boy, duh?!
Honestly, I love the kid, reckon he's gonna be an absolute gun. People on here are expecting a lot... I trust what Jobe observes over what they observe.