Australian Policies -- from October 2024

one of alp’s biggest problems imo for years is that they severely overestimate the intelligence and political engagement of the wider population

it’s all well and good to go around promoting those successes. and there’s no sense in trying to diminish them.

but to most voters, they’re completely and totally irrelevant to their day to day lives

so in a practical sense (ie winning elections) those successes don’t matter.

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All that is cold comfort when the price of a weekly shop is however much higher than it was. Or the cost of getting a meal from a favorite restaurant.

These big macroeconomic outcomes don’t really mean much to lots of people.

Or as simmo put much clearer above.

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Like I said, it’s a difficult sell.
There’s no real way to tell people that things could and probably should have been a Lot worse. And probably would have been under the LNP.
You can’t sell people on what didn’t happen.

Edit: again, I understand that.
It was the first sentence of my post.

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yeah i know, i’m criticising the parties approach

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It’s because Labor promised to fix it all and lower the cost of living. They literally said cost of living would go down under Labor and it’s actually gone up - a lot. On that alone they’ve failed and cost of living is the number 1 issue for voters.

Maybe Albo shouldn’t have said we will lower the cost of living and we will save you $275 a year on your electricity bills.

Based on the current polls the punters are getting a bit angry.

This is from the last election.

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You’re not serious…

Edit: tell you what, you do the math on the percentage increase of the cash rate in their first nine months.
Not the simple difference in rates, but the order of magnitude the cash rate increased from 0.15%, say what you just said again, and tell me you understand context.

and the fact they all take months if not years to show up on day to day life, means you’re general running on the previous govts work for your current situation.

Yes it is. Unless you close the borders to all students and all family re-unions. In any case immigration is not the reason for our economic problems.

I was not going to respond to your normal Right Wing agenda, but seeing you raised the issue of the Voice.

The Voice showed how divided the Country already is. If 65% of Australia tell our First Nations people that they just should shut up and have no rights, then not sure how you can blame Albo at all.

We are a racist nation, always have been ever since the Poms arrived in the First Fleet, probably as bad now as it ever has been, and the campaign against the Voice made it worse.

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I might be incorrect here, but wasn’t there a bipartisan agreement about the Voice, prior to Dutton becoming opposition leader?

The fact that a number of Liberal moderates were in favour of the Voice says a lot.

The problem with The Voice, was that the campaigning started far far too late…… and the fear campaigns kicked off straight away.

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Net overseas migration is the true figure, quoting arrivals is rubbish.
Achieving a NOM target within a specified time frame is difficult, compounded by post Covid lags, the number of arrivals by legal entry claiming asylum, the international students transitioning to skilled visas in sectors where we have skills gaps, shorter term pressures for higher quotas for skilled visas where we have gaps.
There is also the unknown of migrants from across the ditch, for which there are no quotas. When the NZ economy goes bad, we get a bump.
As to developing domestic skills, assistance towards vocational education will take years.
And for so long salaries in nursing and the allied health sector are so much lower than in other skilled sectors we are going to import those skills from developing countries ( including international students) in competition with the rest of the developed world.
It’s not insolvable, but so many variables in achieving a target assessed for the good of Australia,.

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That’s an achievement? FMD.

Corruption Facilitation Commission might have been more appropriate

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Labor did more than cop the environment. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine upended global energy markets, as well as prices of other basics.
The disruption to supply chains from the Black Sea as a War Zone, followed by the loss of the Red Sea for merchant shipping arising from Middle East conflicts.
No Australian Government would have the capacity to prevent the extraordinary impact on cost of living ( an impact shared with other Western Governments).
Maybe you could inform us of the Dutton alternative in response to these conflicts outside of our control.

As to the Albanese response to anti -Semitism, instead of reading from the US political and Mark Leibler establishment scripts , maybe he could have considered the diversity of views within the Jewish community, together with other Middle East communities. There is terrible suffering in Palestine and Lebanon.

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I agree the nation was divided pre voice. I think it’s slot more divided now.

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As I said, winning the 2022 election was to be a poison chalice but that doesn’t mean the government could alleviate the impacts more or act to create the environment that would see rates come down sooner. On this basis, I don’t think the government has been effective enough. I think it was too slow to act on cost of living and I think this inaction or ineffective action has resulted in prolonged pain for most Australians who’re exposed to cost of living challenges.

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What other levers do you think they could have pulled? And what was the Dutton alternative ?
There are so good programs in place which aren’t shovel ready and which will take time to work through. Taxation reform is number one for mine.
My main issues are over-caution ( defensiveness in working from the LNP agenda, which has no policies other than racist dogwhistling).
His biggest fail is refugees and going all the way with Netanyahu according to the US script, instead of factoring in the diversity of views in Continental Europe and our own neighbourhood in the Indo Pacific.

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Definitely a good question.
I can think of a few, but they’re pretty…pretty dramatic, and extremely left.

Thats not what happened though. Who said they get “no rights”?

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And you actually that it was Albo and those who voted YES who caused division. It was Dutton, his Stormtroopers and the Uncle Toms like Thorpe and Mundine.

All the racist worms have come of the woodwork and are bucking at everything indigenous.

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