Australian Politics, Mark II

[beastie]

Why do you think that Labor doesn’t also want the powers?

[Bacchusfox]

Lol

Tinfoil Hat beni

[Bacchusfox]

But they were improper before

[HowManyGoal]

Well, I suppose they probably do. I just can’t believe how stupid our politicians are.

[benfti]

Dunces hat BF

[AnnStBomber]

Do people even follow politicians these days, I gave up years ago.

[HowManyGoal]

Well, I suppose it’s a bit like keeping up with what your captors are up to these days.

[Diggers]

I hate IT.

Especially when he jumps to conclusions.

[SMJ]

So it’s passed tonight. Farking disgusting

[SMJ]

They moved 127 amendments all together. Amendments that were only provided to the parliamentarians an hour earlier.

I can’t possibly see what could go wrong with this

[HowManyGoal]

Universally panned as dangerous and stupid. Nope. Let’s have a crack at it. Farking lunacy.

[BLOODSTAINED_DEVILS]

You.
You have been banging on for a while about not believing that hackers will be able to hack a back door on your phone OS.

I really didn’t. I was only asking questions.

Re" Is it only apple, … ??

If I dont have watts app etc, … ??

I never made any such statement.

I don’t know if I’m hackable, but as I said, there are likely much easier ways if someone wanted to, … but also, I couldn’t GAF if they did, …

What? … they find out I like a drink and the occasional smoke, and sometimes use Tramadol and Bourbon in a Pseudo therapeutic sense??

They could find all that out by trawling Blitz.

[Albert_Thurgood]

You.
You have been banging on for a while about not believing that hackers will be able to hack a back door on your phone OS.

I really didn’t. I was only asking questions.

Re" Is it only apple, … ??

If I dont have watts app etc, … ??

I never made any such statement.

I don’t know if I’m hackable, but as I said, there are likely much easier ways if someone wanted to, … but also, I couldn’t GAF if they did, …

What? … they find out I like a drink and the occasional smoke, and sometimes use Tramadol and Bourbon in a Pseudo therapeutic sense??

They could find all that out by trawling Blitz.

There are some things that even hackers wouldn’t dare try…

[Alan_Noonan_10]

Hackers would all follow Carlton or Hawthorn, and even they would be appalled by the swear filter.

[Mendozaaaa]

Do you also queston the judiciary? You need a warrant to access telecommunications. An officer sitting at their desk can’t just access someone’s teleco data for ■■■■■ and giggles.

There were 343000 metadata accesses in the last 12 months. If the judge(s) considering these cases takes only 5 minutes to review each access request, that still would take 3572 full-time working days, which is what, 16 judges all working full-time? None of this is happening.

There’s no meaningful review on these. The surveillance applications are going before the judges in bulk and being rubber stamped. And of course the judges that these cases go before have to have to be vetted for security before they can do, and it’s the intelligence agencies that do the vetting, and they can and do deny vetting for whatever reason they like and never have to justify it (my old man went on a vietnam moratorium march in the late 60s and spent the rest of his career being knocked back on security grounds for anything close to defence work, for example). So they can very confidently rely on surveillance cases going before likeminded judges. And it’s not like the target gets any sort of representation here, either.

As for examples of police using surveillance and personal info powers immproperly, how about this?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-02/renee-eaves-police-file-accessed-14000-in-claimed-privacy-abuse/7807868

Or this

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/she-will-flip-claim-substantiated-against-police-officer-who-helped-a-mate-20161220-gtfdnz.html?_ga=2.14066750.848452355.1544070640-1721820921.1540341738

(Note that in this case, the police force is arguing they’re not liable because it was an individual who did it, but the individual is sayinng there’s only a law against the police FORCE doing it, not him)

Or there’s this

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/apr/28/federal-police-admit-accessing-journalists-metadata-without-a-warrant

And this:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/02/queensland-police-computer-hacking-no-action-taken-in-nearly-90-of-cases

And that’s only the cops, and only the cases which have been made public.

Cam here to post the same thing. ■■■■ Labor for supporting this. People take the ■■■■ out of China, but at least they’re not hiding it.

[Soulnet]

So these laws contradict the GDPR as well.

[Polydeukes]

Knock yourselves out:

[BLOODSTAINED_DEVILS]

Cam here to post the same thing. ■■■■ Labor for supporting this. People take the ■■■■ out of China, but at least they’re not hiding it.

Hiding to nothing.

De fanging the MurFuch press tropes before they can even begin.

ScuMo actually tried to start it up today, … “Labor will keep you LESS SAFE!” ala Abbot, … (that’s when I changed channel …

No choice.

Things may be very different in power , … though I have been let down before, … so no guarantees.

[dingus]

They had a ■■■■■■ choice.

And they chose to sell out. Again.

[Bacchusfox]

The advice I got today from our IT guy is that this has no effect on our business and all our data is now secure. Thank you for your concern.