Brad Scott - yeah, whatever (Part 3)

[Albert_Thurgood]

@Houli_Dooley

Yeah but fuuaarrk how good is their handballing

Fantastic.

Video:

Daniher's disastrous brain fade

[JBOMBER]

@Go_Team_2.0

@JBOMBER

I highly doubt Scott would have gotten the job if he’d come to the interview stating he thought the list was bad, Dodo had to go & it would take at least 5 years to rebuild. I think deep down he probably knew most of that but he also badly wanted to coach again & had to toe the company line to some extent to at least get in the door.

Or you know, spend some time inside the club getting more information on the list before making decisions.

I don’t believe anyone in football actually needed 2 years inside the club to know the list had significant weaknesses & coaching alone was never ever going to be the difference between success & continued failure. I give Scott more credit than that.

[Go_Team_2.0]

No - but it could be the difference between making a statement like trading an inconsistent underperforming player (Langford pre 2023) and settling a player in a position and having him play the best football of his career.

[Henry_s_Angry_Pills]

Probably true
And that’s the problem

The club has no idea where it’s at.

Worsfold’s “Essendon people” statement rings true.

[ivan]

@JBOMBER

@Go_Team_2.0

@JBOMBER

I highly doubt Scott would have gotten the job if he’d come to the interview stating he thought the list was bad, Dodo had to go & it would take at least 5 years to rebuild. I think deep down he probably knew most of that but he also badly wanted to coach again & had to toe the company line to some extent to at least get in the door.

Or you know, spend some time inside the club getting more information on the list before making decisions.

I don’t believe anyone in football actually needed 2 years inside the club to know the list had significant weaknesses & coaching alone was never ever going to be the difference between success & continued failure. I give Scott more credit than that.

Except our board

[Rustydon]

We have heard Scott and Merrett talk about the fact that we have lacked standards, professionalism, haven’t lived a professional footballers life on and off the field. We have had so many players who have 1 or 2 breakout seasons and then seem to fall off a cliff, sometimes it’s injury, often poor form or perceived lack of effort.

Clearly in a competition this close you must do everything right to be able to compete to the best of your ability, you can’t phone in your performance and this is what I believe Brad is currently trying to get right and he has to allowed to do this.

I thought I’d list the players that have played a senior game into 3 categories. Consistent (effort, performance level is reliable), inconsistent ( have reached a high level but have been unable to reach it again or perform consistently to it) developing ( insufficient time at senior level to build consistency)

Consistent
Merrett
Caldwell
Durham
Langford
Duursma
Martin
McGrath

Inconsistent
Redman
Draper
Ridley
McKay
Parish
Jones
Gresham
Perkins
Wright

Developing
Reid
Caddy
Kako
Menzie
Roberts
Bryan
Tsatis
Hobbs

I have probably missed some players but looking at the list our improvement should come from the inconsistent group of players and if Scott can get this team to be more professional I see no reason that this inconsistent group can’t reach the level of performance they have previously shown…they do that and we can win a final

[efc1robbo]

I wouldn’t have McGrath under consistent

The scary part is, the majority of our guys who are on long term deals are under the inconsistent section

[No.10]

I have never seen McKay kick more than 40 metres. He always props and looks for a chip kick, that nearly always stops momentum. I have seen Reid kick the ball well in training videos, yet he too seemed to have caught the McKay disease last weekend.
Is it a lack of movement further down the field, (can’t tell watching on TV), or just a lack of confidence? Even Ridley seemed to be looking for the short option most of the time. Surely this is not part of the plan?

[percebushby]

“The Plan is Fine” - it’s the execution that’s faulty.

[Walla]

Brad Scott was asked “what he thought about the players execution”.
He replied that he was in favour of it!!!

[percebushby]

I suppose the follow-up question should have been: “Which players ? Please name them.”

“Merrett, Caldwell, aah…”

[JBOMBER]

@No.10

I have never seen McKay kick more than 40 metres. He always props and looks for a chip kick, that nearly always stops momentum. I have seen Reid kick the ball well in training videos, yet he too seemed to have caught the McKay disease last weekend.
Is it a lack of movement further down the field, (can’t tell watching on TV), or just a lack of confidence? Even Ridley seemed to be looking for the short option most of the time. Surely this is not part of the plan?

I have long thought we’ve lacked genuine runners. Those guys that just seem to cover a lot of ground & are either carrying the ball or moving into space to be the next option. Duursma when fit is that type of player & so is Martin but we just seem to have too many players who are slow & or extremely weak in the air. Who in our side could execute that Sicily kick in (was it to Amon or Impey) where the player sprinted away from several of our players & had the ball on the wing in a split second? We don’t have many all round great athletes. I think this is why Scott is desperately trying to make Jones that transition player. We always seem to be trying to make players into what we need them to be rather than have players who can fill the needs we have.

[BAAKKEERRRR]

A “squad mentality”, eh?
My God, this bloke spouts some absolute bullshiit…

[No.10]

It was Impey. It not only showed our lack of speed off the mark, but our lack of game sense and kicking skill.
There was another instance when Sicily, (hate talking about how good he is), hit a 50 metre kick over the heads of everyone and put a Dawk in the clear. 100 metre gain in less than ten seconds.
It annoys me that we don’t have anyone who can do that. I hope Reid is that player but his over-cautious kicking , if that’s what it was, was frustrating to say the least.

[Hesonlygotaleftfoot]

The issue is speed we are dead slow in the back line .

As
For the impey run it’s not like the first time they have done that

He also just hung around loose in the backline being the catalyst for the quick transition when we turned it over

Having the extra around the ball when we just lane away into forward line with opposition having a spare is just bad coaching

[darkknightpheonix]

@Go_Team_2.0

@JBOMBER

I highly doubt Scott would have gotten the job if he’d come to the interview stating he thought the list was bad, Dodo had to go & it would take at least 5 years to rebuild. I think deep down he probably knew most of that but he also badly wanted to coach again & had to toe the company line to some extent to at least get in the door.

Or you know, spend some time inside the club getting more information on the list before making decisions.

I’m curious what information people think that Scott or anyone really couldn’t gather from the outside looking in ?

It’s not as if he had 0 information or ability to garner information about the club, he wasn’t hibernating in a cave away from civilisation before randomly being plucked from obscurity.

Granted we on here live through it, so some are more capable of seeing beyond the surface, but surely from where Scott was positioned, he could form a certain view or opinion of the club, where it was and where it needed to go, prior to stepping foot in the joint.

and surely it shouldn’t have taken more than 6 months to see the list is dogshit, and needs sever overhauling on every line

that’s a list of the players moved on after his first year, 2 left cos they felt under appreciated, the rest held no significance to the starting 22 or improving it.

A year on and he still hasn’t seemingly identified the HBF as a priority needing addressing, and just shoves a poorly skilled, non defensive midfielder in their, cos he couldn’t move him on prior to this year starting.

This is now his third season and he still doesn’t seem to have enough “information” yet about the list, which kind of says it all, and still exhibits the hubris of Sheedy circa 2004 that he thinks he can alter players intrinsic inbuilt nature cos he’s the true messiah.

[Go_Team_2.0]

I don’t agree with a lot of what Scott has done but I don’t think it’s a stretch that he wouldn’t have wanted to come in first year and cut too deep, especially with a new CEO and changes on the board etc. He could have easily have moved on a Langford, Durham etc.

@darkknightpheonix

A year on and he still hasn’t seemingly identified the HBF as a priority needing addressing, and just shoves a poorly skilled, non defensive midfielder in their, cos he couldn’t move him on prior to this year starting.

This is now his third season and he still doesn’t seem to have enough “information” yet about the list, which kind of says it all, and still exhibits the hubris of Sheedy circa 2004 that he thinks he can alter players intrinsic inbuilt nature cos he’s the true messiah.

He moved one of our few very good players last year to play off HB. I didn’t agree with the Martin move but it sure suggests he treats the position with priority.

It’s now his third season and we are fielding one of the youngest teams in the comp. I think it’s pretty clear they looking to build through the draft but also maintain some degree of competitiveness. I’d much rather try Shiel at half back during a year where we aren’t expecting finals to see if it works. Especially in the first half of the season.

[primmer1978]

We have started to address the issue, we have to get a couple from the ressies into the ones. Will help a lot. Next year if you are not sub 3 sec 20m then pass.

[TempleOfParish]

Placing Parish and Ridley in inconsistent is not fair. The only thing thats held them back is injury.

[Klawdy]

@efc1robbo

I wouldn’t have McGrath under consistent

Consistent (when compared to most of the others)