Brexit


#181

I also think people are starting to realise that politicians, lawyers and economists might not actually know what they are talking about.


#182
I also think people are starting to realise that politicians, lawyers and economists might not actually know what they are talking about.

Add journalist to that list.


#183
How long until Australia has its own Trump/Sanders/Brexit moment/person?

That was Abbott.

There is a touch of the Abbot negativity. Brexit is not going to stop the refugee crisis and there may be far less cooperation between the UK and continental Europe in managing refugee intakes. New walls will be needed between the south and north of Ireland. Like Abbott, they won’t be stopping the boats, just turning them back.


#184
Long read but a good one. This is my kind of angry/crazy.

"The easiest course to achieve that goal is simply to demonize those with little power, wealth or possibility as stupid and racist: this is only happening because they are primitive and ignorant and hateful, not because they have any legitimate grievances or because I or my friends or my elite institutions have done anything wrong. "

https://theintercept.com/2016/06/25/brexit-is-only-the-latest-proof-of-the-insularity-and-failure-of-western-establishment-institutions/

Thanks for this Rolo, hits the nail right on the head. Much better than all the tantrum throwing journos in the MSM.


#185

Did Katter go too early? Most people seem to disregard him as a straight up nutter but someone of his kind could get some real traction, soon.


#186

You need to get out of FNQ.


#187

So what happens now?

Will the Scots try for independence again, given their unanimous support to stay in the EU?
Is there another referendum on the cards, given the huge amount of under 30s who voted to stay?
And what now for Europe itself. Could every country just go it alone?


#188

Britain has not only got rid of its EU overlords but also its Tory and Labour (probably) ones too…

Last one out please turn off the lights.


#189

And I can’t get over the fact that there doesn’t seem to be a plan. Let’s have a referendum and when it’s over we’ll see what we are going to do. And Cameron resigning…in three months time. Talk about promoting instability.
He was the one that created this mess he should be staying to see it through, or at least start the process.
And the process, which will take all of two years if my experience with water reform is anything to go by, should be starting immediately


#190

Why do I get the feeling that the people on my facebook feed going ‘Yay Brexit! Yay Trump! Sovereignty mofos!’ (I may be paraphrasing) would be the loudest voices against an Australian Republic?


#191
You need to get out of FNQ.

If Sir Joh was around he’d still be king in Qld.


#192
So what happens now?

Will the Scots try for independence again, given their unanimous support to stay in the EU?
Is there another referendum on the cards, given the huge amount of under 30s who voted to stay?
And what now for Europe itself. Could every country just go it alone?

It could be the beginning of the end for EU.
I don’t think scots will have another vote for at least a couple of years. It could be a good thing for them, they just need to wait it out and see what the effects are.
I think the biggest crisis is asylum seekers in Europe, and due to britains borders/ Sea, and not being in the EU, it will be easier for them to say no thanks, that’s Euro’s problem.

As for Australian politics I don’t think you can trust Labor or Liberal.
I gave my first vote to the renewable energy party.
and made liberal and labor last and second last.

In the senate voted for a liberal person I know 1st, he is unlikely to get in as he is 6th on the Liberal list of candidates, then I went back to the minor parties again, putting most of libs/labour candidates last.

Its probably a waste of a vote but meh.


#193
And I can't get over the fact that there doesn't seem to be a plan. Let's have a referendum and when it's over we'll see what we are going to do. And Cameron resigning.....in three months time. Talk about promoting instability. He was the one that created this mess he should be staying to see it through, or at least start the process. And the process, which will take all of two years if my experience with water reform is anything to go by, should be starting immediately
Rising talks now that Cameron may be happy to hand Johnson this ■■■■ sandwich and watch him buckle under it. The referendum is not binding either, they aren't obliged to follow through on it. Interesting times ahead.

#194
So what happens now?

Will the Scots try for independence again, given their unanimous support to stay in the EU?
Is there another referendum on the cards, given the huge amount of under 30s who voted to stay?
And what now for Europe itself. Could every country just go it alone?

You wouldn’t think they could have another vote. That’s akin to “you’re all going to keep voting until we get the result we want.”

Best 2 out of 3 sounds fair. Or 3 out of 5 failing that.


#195

_https://imgur.com/gallery/dhwPLtv


#196
the CLIVE PALMER EXPERIENCE

New band name.


#197
It doesn't require balls, it requires a load of people going along with being promised stuff they ain't necessarily gonna get, whilst losing other valuable things in the process.

Politics in general. Hopefully it goes well for them. Am I wrong to assume they were strong before joining EU anyway? Not old enough to really know.

Yes they were. For all people rubbish them. They gave us our system of government, our legal system, common law. They were the only bit of Europe left standing after the Germans swept through in ww11. They were kept out of what was then called “the common market” for years, which was the then EU trading block. They’ve done fine on their own in the past, they will be fine into the future.

They were cactus in the 60s and 70s economically.
They were mainly cactus due to the Unions demanding & getting astronomical wage increases, when mines & the car industry couldn't afford it. Thatcher sorted that right out & Unions now aren't as powerful as they used to be.

#198
So what happens now?

Will the Scots try for independence again, given their unanimous support to stay in the EU?
Is there another referendum on the cards, given the huge amount of under 30s who voted to stay?
And what now for Europe itself. Could every country just go it alone?

It could be the beginning of the end for EU.
I don’t think scots will have another vote for at least a couple of years. It could be a good thing for them, they just need to wait it out and see what the effects are.
I think the biggest crisis is asylum seekers in Europe, and due to britains borders/ Sea, and not being in the EU, it will be easier for them to say no thanks, that’s Euro’s problem.

As for Australian politics I don’t think you can trust Labor or Liberal.
I gave my first vote to the renewable energy party.
and made liberal and labor last and second last.

In the senate voted for a liberal person I know 1st, he is unlikely to get in as he is 6th on the Liberal list of candidates, then I went back to the minor parties again, putting most of libs/labour candidates last.

Its probably a waste of a vote but meh.

It’s not, depending on how the rest of your vote went.


#199
LOL

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/746218028195426305?s=08

feverishly googles susanna reid…


#200
Won't be long. Now that car manufacturing is on the way out, once everyone realises Australia doesn't have an industrial sector any more and that those jobs are never coming back, the drums will start to beat a bit louder. Especially if iron and coal prices stay in the toilet in the medium/long term, as I expect they will, and a few consecutive global-warming-driven droughts ■■■■ over the farmers (and Reef tourism) again. An economy entirely revolving around baristas making coffee for property developers and property developers trying to sell baristas new 4-bedroom houses on treeless ex-paddocks west of Melton while approx three dozen billionaire casino and banking moguls eat caviar off the naked bodies of supermodels is not a recipe for a stable society.

Though I reckon the CLIVE PALMER EXPERIENCE might have discouraged a few of such a person’s likely supporters, for a little while at least.

HM, I’m loving your posts on this thread.