Buddygate


#101

If you can't beat 'em, join them Buddy?

 

I'm a little bit amazed the more I think about this. Just days after losing a Grand Final to Sydney, he decides that his best move would be to join them. 


#102

 

 

There was a NHL case where a player was on a 17 year contract but the last 10 years we only 50K each.

 

It was to spread the salary cap pressure.

 

He retired after 4 years.

 

It's a dodgy loophole that the AFL need to clean up.

Mate I don't see how there is a loophole.  If Buddy doesn't see out his contract because of injury or crapness, the Swans still have to pay him and include it in the salary cap.  Whether they keep him on the list and include it each year or cut him after 5 years and weare the last 4 years costs in one season is up to them, but either way there is a big risk for them.

 

I hope it ends up happening and that Buddy turns into dud within 3 or 4 years and the Swans are screwed for years as a result.

 

That's the bit you don't get.

 

The deal is front ended knowing Buddy won't play after 5 years.

 

That is the loophole.

 

As they have so many players leaving this year they have cash now. So pay him 1.2 or 1.3 this year. Then the last 4 years are only 200K or what ever. Total over the 9 years is the same but the pain is just now.

 

We don't want to get to a situation where we spread out a contract over 17 years to get around the salary cap like the NHL does.

 

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#103

Hawks mate of mine's facebook status

"I'm having a big burn buddy bonfire if anyway one is keen, burning buddy guernseys , frames memorabilia ect"


#104

I kept waiting for Buddy or the swans to scoff at the reports of the 9 year deal. Then it became clear it was true. 

 

Why are Sydney so desperate? Wouldn't 7 years get it across the line, six even?

 

9 years? Why don't they just offer him a $100 Billion?  

 

This is the weirdest Footy story of the year, and thanks to our ugly mess, it went completely undetected. 


#105



There was a NHL case where a player was on a 17 year contract but the last 10 years we only 50K each.
It was to spread the salary cap pressure.
He retired after 4 years.
It's a dodgy loophole that the AFL need to clean up.

Mate I don't see how there is a loophole. If Buddy doesn't see out his contract because of injury or crapness, the Swans still have to pay him and include it in the salary cap. Whether they keep him on the list and include it each year or cut him after 5 years and weare the last 4 years costs in one season is up to them, but either way there is a big risk for them.
I hope it ends up happening and that Buddy turns into dud within 3 or 4 years and the Swans are screwed for years as a result.
That's the bit you don't get.
The deal is front ended knowing Buddy won't play after 5 years.
That is the loophole.
As they have so many players leaving this year they have cash now. So pay him 1.2 or 1.3 this year. Then the last 4 years are only 200K or what ever. Total over the 9 years is the same but the pain is just now.
We don't want to get to a situation where we spread out a contract over 17 years to get around the salary cap like the NHL does.
I haven't seen any reports suggesting it's front ended that much. In fact, many have suggested the first few years are low and there is still plenty in the last few.
Anyway, even if you're right Sydney are still taking a massive risk because under that scenario Buddy would be using close to 20% of their salary cap in the first 5 years.
If you're wrong then they're paying for an old crock in the last few years.
Either way, the $10m has to go into their salary cap at some point. Whether it ends up being for 5 years or 9 it could still potentially hurt them.
Again, I don't see how it's a loophole I n the way you're suggesting. Or at least, in my opinion, the loophole is closed by the fact that all of the $10m has to be accounted for somewhere in their salary cap. If they're stupid enough to offload him 4 years early, still have him on the list for 4 years on whatever the terms are for those 4 years and have less to pay the other players then that's their problem

#106

if... the afl block this  (big IF )     will all be forgiven instantly by hawks fans and the club ? or will he go somewhere else .


#107

You'd assume they've back ended the ■■■■ out of it in hope he has a hot shot within the first five years. 


#108

JD & COLA great mix!

Fark the AFL! AKA the…Hypocritical Communist Party!


#109

Anyone else heard the last three year of buddy’s contract at Sydney clearly state he is being payed as a marketing person at the club not a footballer so if he can’t play it won’t come under the cap?


#110

COLA

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#111

Let me get this straight:
1) Sydney say Buddy approached them.
2) Buddy says he didn't make contact till after the Grand Final.
3) Sydney worked out 9 years/$10m of salary cap within 2 days (presumably less).
Uh huh. Just stop lying.

He didn't say which grand final!

#112

Anyone else heard the last three year of buddy's contract at Sydney clearly state he is being payed as a marketing person at the club not a footballer so if he can't play it won't come under the cap?

I heard the last three years of his contract he is getting a McDonald's.


#113

COLA
C-O-L-A
COOOOOLAAAAA
CA CA CA CA COLA

I'm not dumb but I can't understand...


#114

 

Let me get this straight:
1) Sydney say Buddy approached them.
2) Buddy says he didn't make contact till after the Grand Final.
3) Sydney worked out 9 years/$10m of salary cap within 2 days (presumably less).
Uh huh. Just stop lying.

He didn't say which grand final!

 

i'll pay that.


#115

 

 

Let me get this straight:
1) Sydney say Buddy approached them.
2) Buddy says he didn't make contact till after the Grand Final.
3) Sydney worked out 9 years/$10m of salary cap within 2 days (presumably less).
Uh huh. Just stop lying.

He didn't say which grand final!

 

i'll pay that.

 

How much?


#116

 

 

Let me get this straight:
1) Sydney say Buddy approached them.
2) Buddy says he didn't make contact till after the Grand Final.
3) Sydney worked out 9 years/$10m of salary cap within 2 days (presumably less).
Uh huh. Just stop lying.

He didn't say which grand final!

 

i'll pay that.

 

How much?


#117

 

 

 

Let me get this straight:
1) Sydney say Buddy approached them.
2) Buddy says he didn't make contact till after the Grand Final.
3) Sydney worked out 9 years/$10m of salary cap within 2 days (presumably less).
Uh huh. Just stop lying.

He didn't say which grand final!

 

i'll pay that.

 

How much?

 

9.8%


#118

COLA
C-O-L-A
COOOOOLAAAAA
CA CA CA CA COLA

I'm not dumb but I can't understand...

It's kinky

#119

To be fair, Buddy never disputed he contacted them after the 2012 grand final. He said he didn't make the final decision until after the 2013 grand final.

 

I don't believe he hadn't already made a decision, but he never claimed he only contacted them recently.


#120

CHICKEN CHERRY COLA

I think I get this obscure reference.