Category B indigenous/multicultural rookies

[bigallan]

I did not say that.

[barnz]

You still haven’t answered the circus freak question.

[samwoods]

Risk management is a thing from big business through to gamblers.

It is not a problem of itself.

If some are saying we are too risk averse, well ok. However there are always some people who will be comfortable taking a greater risk than other people. It often depends on your circumstances.

It sounds like we have identified that we are a club that likes to operate at a lower risk threshold. However it also seems as if we are actively creating pathways for players who haven’t had one previously. I suggest that may be evidence of a club that wants to recruit these players, but are putting in place pathways that reduce the risk level first.

Can’t see anything at all wrong with that, assuming we are undertaking it with a reasonable level of intent.

[bigallan]

I did.

[barnz]

Not really, just said some vague stuff about kids from african descent then attached your agenda to the articles about his past, which can also be used to highlight his resilience.

[bigallan]

When facts aren’t facts anymore …

[frosty]

While I completely agree, we have managed to screw up our risk analyses monumentally in recent times.

And I think it’s fair to say that its list management risk analyses have also been failures, given the results of the “competing for flags” KPI.

[Ants]

I just think presenting a player who was all Australian at their position in juniors as a risk pick is a bit rich

You’ve forgotten Austin Lucy!!!

[Ants]

While I completely agree, we have managed to screw up our risk analyses monumentally in recent times.

And I think it’s fair to say that its list management risk analyses have also been failures, given the results of the “competing for flags” KPI.

I think that was all off field. The refusal to tank or do a full rebuild, then the saga sank a team on the cusp of challenging.

[marconi]

Can bigallen and ben actually ■■■■■■■ post something where it says hes a risk pick from the club?

Something doesn’t add up

Hey guys.

Interesting thread.

I do not wish to speak in secrets, so I won’t, but the amount of time and effort the club is putting into NGA’s in West Arnhem and Tiwi surely will speak for itself. The fact that the club now has a board seat at the Tiwi Bombers surely shows our commitment to growing and creating pathways in the islands. Our entire AFLW proposal was based around creating a pathway for our Tiwi and West Arnhem girls coming to the club.

I can understand frustrations around perceived lack of drafting of indigenous kids, but surely we draft for talent and missing skill at the club? I am sure that everyone hopes that the numbers will start to turn soon. The JHA has recently opened it’s doors to NGA kids also, and I believe there is a fair few indigenous kids in that intake also, as well as multicultural kids.

To say the club is risk adverse in drafting doesn’t take into account Eades, Gach Nyuon and to some extent, even Stringer this year.

There are some big things coming for the NGA program, some included in the plans at Tullamarine that I can’t speak about yet (though Xavier may have mentioned them…)

The club has challenged itself to push for a stretch RAP with really strong commitments to the local and national Aboriginal and Torres Strait islander communities that is currently with Reconciliation Australia for approval (and I’m hoping we get).

I think to suggest there is something deeper going on at the club when it comes to indigenous affairs is pretty unfair, if I’m honest.

Does this count?

[barnz]

ohh a board member that has sfa to do with recruiting.

[bigallan]

Only if you’re numerate

[marconi]

ohh a board member that has sfa to do with recruiting.

I don’t have dog in this fight but are you saying Katie is completely ignorant about the club’s recruiting practices or that she is excluded from all recruiting conversations within the club?

[Catherine_Lio]

I have very little to do with recruiting, I promise you that.

Surely history shows that any rookie player - hell, any drafted player - is a risk. McKenna is another example I could have used. Sam Draper too.

Not sure why my comment in a completely other thread is being used in this one if I’m honest.

[marconi]

Hi Katie, there has been some debate as to whether Gach Nyuon was perceived as a risk by the club when he was recruited. I used your comment as an example (it was fresh in my mind) that some people within the club may have thought Gach’s recruitment involved risk. I didn’t quote you to cast any aspersions.

[Catherine_Lio]

Thanks mate.

[dambuster]

Surely every recruit has an element of risk, and rookies would be considered a higher risk, otherwise they would have been picked in the main draft. Category B rookies a higher ‘risk’ again by definition.

[Killer_Mike]

Apparently we had a scout at the European Combine.

I recall reading something a couple of months back about an Irish kid we were looking at.

[SplitRound]

Apparently we had a scout at the European Combine.

I recall reading something a couple of months back about an Irish kid we were looking at.

McDaid (who’s at carlton now) and Okunbar.

[Killer_Mike]

Yeah, McDaid that’s the guy.

Can’t be very good if Carlton picked him up.