Changes vs North

[Jaymin]

@Drapersmullet

greenwood one of the very few who would have possibly pressured our players

Not the 2024 version. He is hot trash.

[Crazy_Bomber]

@Blummers32

@Crazy_Bomber

Watch how quickly all these people thinking we’ve turned the corner react when the margin is a goal one way or another at quarter time. I don’t trust this team, yet.

You can not trust the team but think we’ve turned the corner.
I don’t look at each game in isolation and it appears you’ve micro managed that even further to a quarter.
I prefer looking at form / progress across a 3 to 4 game period within the season. It allows to correct a drop off in performance and also an ‘out of the box’ win.

I’m still skeptical that we don’t make finals. It’s all in our hands though.
The next 3 games should be a good gauge as to whether we have turned the corner.
We win two of them (which is entirely possible and more likely than not) then we’ve reached 8 wins in half a season compared to last year’s 11 wins in total.
We could still fall in a heap from there and miss finals, but it’s progress.
If we lose all 3 games then we’ve basically matched last year’s output in half a season which isn’t progression.
I have no problems waiting 3 games to re-assess where we’re at.

For memory last year North did beat us at centre bounce contested footy. If they can halve the contest, they’ll be in the game.
I think it’ll be close for the first quarter, it’ll ebb and flow for a while, but we’ll pretty much control the game. And then we’ll pull away early in the 4th and cruise to a 3 to 5 goal win.
I’m fine with that.

So everyone has been telling me all week how horrible they are (correctly), that they’ve been destroyed by 10 goals every week and that every team has score 100+ easily against them. That they are an utter rabble. But now people would be content with scraping home with a 3 goal win? If we can’t win big tommorow, when exactly will we ever?

I think we’re on the right track, tackling and pressure was something a fair few of us were wanting for years but seemed like a foreign concept to Essington FC, then there were others who thought the Parish and Sheil midfield method was correct because they got coshy stats whilst no midfield pressure was being applied. Clearly, the effort, tackling and pressure method has been proven correct.

In saying thinking we’re on the right track, I don’t trust us, they haven’t earnt the trust yet, and we’ve been in similar promising win positions and win streaks in almost every year for over a decade. Personally, I think a 50+ win will be an accetable result.

[Donslaught9]

@Crazy_Bomber

You said we’d destroy them

Where/when did I post that?

I think we will definitely win and can’t understand the lack of faith. But destroy?

[Odoyle]

@Crazy_Bomber

Personally, I think a 50+ win will be an accetable result.

Didn’t you tip north just before? Its entirely reasonable not to trust EFC, yet.

[Crazy_Bomber]

@Donslaught9

@Crazy_Bomber

You said we’d destroy them

Where/when did I post that?

I think we will definitely win and can’t understand the lack of faith. But destroy?

Sorry, I took the below to mean that:

@SlowFish

There’s no excuses. We need to absolutely destroy them.

@Donslaught9

We will.

And all the bed wetters on here will then turn their attention to Richmond and think of every possible catastrophe on why we won’t win that either.

[Crazy_Bomber]

@Odoyle

@Crazy_Bomber

Personally, I think a 50+ win will be an accetable result.

Didn’t you tip north just before? Its entirely reasonable not to trust EFC, yet.

Yes, I tipped North because I don’t trust us. I think a good result for us would be a 50+ win, two different things.

[Odoyle]

Do you trust North?

[Donslaught9]

We’ve won more games this year than they have in the last 3.

Of course they do…

[Odoyle]

Tbh, North are extremely trustworthy.

Extraordinary consistency.

[Sugar_Winton]

@Donslaught9

I can’t believe that people on here after watching us this year and only losing to 1st (away) & 6th (away) are convinced we are going to lose to the 18th placed club who have won 1 game in their last 30.

Have faith in these players to do the right thing. You might not get your 80 point win (because believe it or not … as bad as the opposition may be, they probably will be trying to win too… I know, weird concept) … but we haven’t lost a game since Brad Scott took over when starting favourites.

No one is convinced we are going to lose….pls. There’s been a few tongue in cheek posts and certainly a few posting some trepidation about the level of confidence. And unless you have been living in a cave for the past 20 years that seems entirely fair. I’m not sure why anyone is in a huge rush to proclaim “this time is different” and “we are back” apart from the click hungry journos desperate for content. Just enjoy the wins and see how we progress.

[Crazy_Bomber]

@Odoyle

Do you trust North?

Tommorow has nothing to do with the oppisition, it has to do with our mindset. It’s always been that way for years with Essington. I’m more confident that Brad Scott won’t allow Essington than Worsfold and Rutten did.

[Odoyle]

@Crazy_Bomber

Tommorow has nothing to do with the oppisition

Oh, it absolutely does have a lot to do with them.

[RTBC]

Emotional hedging by sports fans is a tradition as old as Noonan’s Meemaa.

[HobbsYourUncle]

@Wanderlust

Langford didn’t train on the oval but is out signing autographs. So I’m guessing he’s all good for tomorrow?

He should do this during the game tomorrow

[Crazy_Bomber]

@RTBC

Emotional hedging by sports fans is a tradition as old as Noonan’s Meemaa.

It’s what two decades of failures and breaking trust does to you.

[Donslaught9]

@6_monfries_and_coke

Is caddy training

Far right of image.

Looks like it…

[BringBackMaxCrow]

For the North players!

[Blummers32]

@Crazy_Bomber

@Blummers32

@Crazy_Bomber

Watch how quickly all these people thinking we’ve turned the corner react when the margin is a goal one way or another at quarter time. I don’t trust this team, yet.

You can not trust the team but think we’ve turned the corner.
I don’t look at each game in isolation and it appears you’ve micro managed that even further to a quarter.
I prefer looking at form / progress across a 3 to 4 game period within the season. It allows to correct a drop off in performance and also an ‘out of the box’ win.

I’m still skeptical that we don’t make finals. It’s all in our hands though.
The next 3 games should be a good gauge as to whether we have turned the corner.
We win two of them (which is entirely possible and more likely than not) then we’ve reached 8 wins in half a season compared to last year’s 11 wins in total.
We could still fall in a heap from there and miss finals, but it’s progress.
If we lose all 3 games then we’ve basically matched last year’s output in half a season which isn’t progression.
I have no problems waiting 3 games to re-assess where we’re at.

For memory last year North did beat us at centre bounce contested footy. If they can halve the contest, they’ll be in the game.
I think it’ll be close for the first quarter, it’ll ebb and flow for a while, but we’ll pretty much control the game. And then we’ll pull away early in the 4th and cruise to a 3 to 5 goal win.
I’m fine with that.

So everyone has been telling me all week how horrible they are (correctly), that they’ve been destroyed by 10 goals every week and that every team has score 100+ easily against them. That they are an utter rabble. But now people would be content with scraping home with a 3 goal win? If we can’t win big tommorow, when exactly will we ever?

I think we’re on the right track, tackling and pressure was something a fair few of us were wanting for years but seemed like a foreign concept to Essington FC, then there were others who thought the Parish and Sheil midfield method was correct because they got coshy stats whilst no midfield pressure was being applied. Clearly, the effort, tackling and pressure method has been proven correct.

In saying thinking we’re on the right track, I don’t trust us, they haven’t earnt the trust yet, and we’ve been in similar promising win positions and win streaks in almost every year for over a decade. Personally, I think a 50+ win will be an accetable result.

If we play to our best and North play to their season form, we should win by 10 goals.
If we crush their confidence early and are up by 5 goals halfway through the second quarter, then that result is in play.

I don’t think that’ll happen though.
I think we’ll take it easy through the game and that’ll open up the opportunity for North to get some run ons. They may even sneak ahead by a few goals at some point in the game. Confidence can do that to a young team. We’ve been on both sides of this kind of game in the last two decades.

If I can be assured the way we play and the way they play, then I know what result to expect. But there’s no such thing in competitive sports. Nothing is certain.

We’re thinking a similar way especially with regards to trusting the team over a longer period of time.
But I’m tipping us to win by 3 to 5 goals whilst you’re tipping us to lose by 3 goals.

The only reason I think we’ll win is because based on the year, North have been poor and smashed by plenty of teams this season. I don’t think they’ve been anywhere near last year’s best performance and I suspect we’ll see it this weekend even though we won’t quite be ready for it, but be able to fight our way through it.

I think we’ll either have a close win against North, learn from it and have a comfortable win against Richmond, or a comfortable win against North, get ahead of ourselves and have a close win against Richmond.
My reasoning for this is we’ve had 5 straight very positive weeks of performance. I can’t recall us going on this kind of a run against good opposition (Collingwood & GWS) as well as two interstate matches and continuing it for another 5 weeks over the last 15 years. So based on history, we’re close towards a poor result somewhere in the next month. That could be a demoralising loss or a close win.

I’m not too worried about whether we’re in front at quarter time or not during the game. How we respond to their performance is more important and valuable to me. We’re not in the total dominance of all opposition phase yet.

[handypoint]

Very shortsighted.

McKay really straightens us up and will ensure Reid when he gets games wont be on the number 1 forward.

Can’t believe they let him walk.

Norths defence unless they have found some genuine young guns is going to struggle for the next 1-4 years

[handypoint]

@Matthew_J

With last year’s premiers and grand finalists out of the 8, and finals team like the Blues, Cats and Giants all wobbling, the premiership race is Sydney, then anyone… Why not us? Up the Planes!

In keep these thoughts to the lid off thread.

But I still think we need to run Geelong to the wire at the G, ditto Sydney at Marvel and show that we can rise above our middling peers(suns, richmond, carlton etc).

We havent done that yet. GWS hate Marvel even though our win was super impressive.