Climate Change in Australia


And exactly which half is that?
The top half, the lower half, the inside half, the outside half?
It certainly isn’t the half near Mackay or Airle Beach unless it died in the last 2 months.
Where do you get this crap from?

The GBR dies every time the funding for the “scientists” is coming up for renewal.
It has the same credibility and happens as often as THE ARCTIC WILL BE ICE FREE by (fill in a date)

Civilisation, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.


The ARC Centre for Excellence in Coral Reef Studies and the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority is where I’m getting my info, where are you getting yours? Cos it sounds to me like you took a holiday to the whitsundays, which is right at the southernmost and coolest point of the Reef, went on a snorkel trip, saw some coral, and decided it was all ok (yeah, cos I’m sure the tour guide would have taken you to a dead reef, they have to make a buck too…)

Here’s a handy map for you. Notice how the reef is dead in warmer places and hanging on in cooler places? Notice how the comfy touristy places that you’ve visited are right down south in the cooler water where the impact has been lowest so far?

(FWIW I went to Cape Tribulation in the Daintree, right up in the red zone, back in 09 and then again last year, and the difference was horrifying. And that’s at the BEST bits, where the tour boats take people to see good coral)

Speaking of Arctic ice coverage, here’s a handy video from NASA showing how it’s halved in the last 40 years.


You idiot, half doesn’t have to be in one spot?? It’s half of the reefs volume


Personally, I loved the veiled authoritarian quote sorfed threw in.


Don’t you know who and what Mencken was.


50% of the Great Barrier Reef has disappeared since 2016, 2 years was the quote.

GBR - 344,400 sq km
172,200 sq km per year.
471.78 sq km per day.
19.66 sq km per hour.
327,625 sq metres per minute.
5460 sq metres per second.

The Reef will be completely dead by New Years Eve 2020.

Do you really believe that?


Yes. Who is quoted doesn’t mean anything.

You are on to something, though. My mistake was not saying anti-intellectual.


You are on to something, though. My mistake was not saying anti-intellectual.

Henry Louis Mencken (September 12, 1880 – January 29, 1956) was an American journalist, essayist, satirist, cultural critic and scholar of American English.[1] He commented widely on the social scene, literature, music, prominent politicians and contemporary movements. His satirical reporting on the Scopes trial, which he dubbed the “Monkey Trial”, also gained him attention.

If you consider him anti-intellectual your IQ must be off the scale and make Newton and Einstein look like the village idiots.


Did you not read my post that said it doesn’t matter who wrote a quote it’s how you use it? Crikey.



Mencken was a racist and Jew hater, and a right wing nut job, not unlike you.

This is not the first time you have quoted him, hope it is the last.


You guys are as nuts as the troll. Why are you still giving it oxygen?


Maybe I should have quoted Hitler, he was a racist and a Jew hater and a leftwing nutjob and A Green.


Instead of trolling I could start giving examples of failed climate predictions.

Still, nobody has come up with a figure of how many wind turbines Victoria will need to achieve Dan Andrews 45% renewable target.
With minimum demand during the holiday period at night I figure a minimum of 16,500.
You are all highly educated so let’s see your figures.


1755 AD, we are in our 25th solar cycle.


So a solar cycle is 10 years?

If so then yeah, na.

Ice ages are longer than ten years and they are obviously the most extreme climates we have seen.


This is some great education from hm & co for people like me who don’t know much about climate change.

TBH sorfed is also providing some great education but probably not the sort he thinks.


Hitler was a right-wing authoritarian and while his Party had “Socialist” and “Workers” in its name translated from the German, they were about as left wing as our LNP is liberal.

In fact, Hitler murdered most of the Leftwing leaders in his Party in 1936.

And while the NAZI’s had policy to build National Parks and plans to get Germans to commune with Nature, they never actually enacted anything and we more interested in global domination and killing Jews.


A Solar cycle lasts a bit more than 11 years. Every 11 or so years, the solar poles flip. At the start and end of each cycle the solar activity is diminished. This is called the solar minimum.

In the middle of each solar cycle, solar activity is typically higher…this is called the solar maximum.

Sometimes the minimums and maximums can be more intense.

When a solar minimum happens occassionally the solar activity stays sub-dued for a longer period of time than the normal 3 or 4 years, so no maximums in the cycle…this is called a grand solar minimum…these happen every couple of hundred years and can lead to climate cooling…this mostly happens in the Northen Hemisphere. It is commonly thought that these events are minor in comparison to MMCC but others claim it will impact on global food supplies.


So it’s closest comparison is El Niño. Impact the climate for a short period but no long term trend.

I don’t know why it’s got any legs at all as an argument.


That was actually more just Himmlers bag really ,… ol’ Adolf never really GAF about that credo.