Climate Change in Australia (Part 1)

“It’s a very scientificky issue”

  • Sam Lane QC PhD
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Yeah, but they’re not even scientificking properly. It was a cool evening last night when the latest researched predictions where that we’d all either be dead or running from cannibals.

Lol, … this thread now?

It’s like arguing with a pair of ficus plants . :mute::zzz:

Is it time I invite my wife in to this thread to talk to these guys or should I not waste her time?

I think you know the answer to that.

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If you want a happy a wife, spare her the frustration.

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One of the central issues is believed to be why the IPCC failed to account for the “pause” in global warming, which they admit that they did not predict in their computer models. Since 1997, world average temperatures have not shown any statistically significant increase.

The summary also shows that scientist have now discovered that between 950 and 1250 AD, before the Industrial Revolution, parts of the world were as warm for decades at a time as they are now.

Despite a 2012 draft stating that the world is at it’s warmest for 1,300 years, the latest document states: “'Surface temperature reconstructions show multi-decadal intervals during the Medieval Climate Anomaly (950-1250) that were in some regions as warm as in the late 20th Century.”

The 2007 report included predictions of a decline in Antarctic sea ice, but the latest document does not explain why this year it is at a record high.

The 2013 report states: “'Most models simulate a small decreasing trend in Antarctic sea ice extent, in contrast to the small increasing trend in observations …

“There is low confidence in the scientific understanding of the small observed increase in Antarctic sea ice extent.’ [/quote]

Nothing to see here. Move along please.

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Sounds risky letting wife know you use any energy on idiots on a football forum when it’s not even about football. If you don’t reckon she’d care about that detail then go for it.

Or … she can take any frustration out on the Ignoramus Brothers, and be full vented & cruisey post venting with Benny, … might be method to that madness??

[quote=“Essendon12, post:1328, topic:170, full:true”]

Perhaps you didn’t notice that the report is from 2013. There was a pause in Antarctic ice melt which was inconsistent with predictions. Since then the warming trend has accelerated and we have experienced record global temps and record melt at both poles. Perhaps you missed the report I posted on this.

Perhaps you also didn’t fully read the article you just posted which includes:

‘The report states that the world is warming at a rate of 0.12C per decade since 1951, compared to a prediction of 0.13C per decade in their last assessment published in 2007.’ So hair-splitting really.

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You’re quoting an article from 2013 there, trip.

One would have to ask why, rather than something more recent. I personally assume the answer is that because you looked for one that gave you the answer you wanted rather than one that contained anything like up to date info.

Just so you know, since 2013 the ‘warming pause’ ceased with a vengeance, and that in fact 2013, 2014, and 2015 were the three hottest years on record.

And you realise that since then we know WHY this happened - that a lot of CO2 went into acidifying the oceans (so affecting marine ecology earlier and worse than expected) and a lot of heat went into warming the deep oceans (destabilising deep currenls earlier and worse than expected) and the arctic, causing loss of pack ice earlier and more severely than expected?

But if you cherrypick news articles from dubious tabloids from 4 years ago, you ARE going to miss that stuff I guess…

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My* cancer is increasing at a much slower rate than those quacks predicted.
Therefore I’ll be fine.

*Rhetorical

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@Essendon12

This is exactly what I was mentioning to you earlier about looking at the extreme ends of the science only.

From your article.

One of the report’s authors, Professor Myles Allen, the director of Oxford University’s Climate Research Network, has said that people should not look to the IPCC for a “bible” on climate change.

Professor Allen, who admits “we need to look very carefully about what the IPCC does in future”, said that he could not comment on the report as it was still considered to be in its draft stages.

However, he added: “It is a complete fantasy to think that you can compile an infallible or approximately infallible report, that is just not how science works.

“It is not a bible, it is a scientific review, an assessment of the literature. **Frankly both sides are seriously confused on how science works - the critics of the IPCC and the environmentalists who credit the IPCC as if it is the gospel."**
_Scientist were constantly revising their research to account for new data, he said._

Despite the uncertainties and contradictions, the IPCC insists that it is more confident than ever – 95 per cent certain - that global warming is mainly human’s fault.
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■■■■ you wim, I wish you had of posted that earlier.
I believed the ■■■■■■ specialists and had the op, did the chemo and all that nasty ■■■■…
I feel like such a ■■■■ now.

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Wow you guys are seriously unhinged. It reminds me of the Trump thread. The abuse sadly does not surprise me. At the same time it means that you must have some insecurity around your beliefs which is understandable. Else it would not generate such angst.

Let’s see if your political party will be prepared to take the left consensus to the polls. I hope so.

Nothing to say to the facts laid down. Better say something.

“Wow, you guys are really unhinged…”

Actually, sorry. It was. Just not where we were looking.

Are you saying that Malcolm ‘werewolf’ Roberts is ignoring facts?

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So friggin’ funny.
Seriously.
Both of you.

‘It’s sad that you dumb ■■■■■■ resort to abuse.’

I’m dying here…

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“Facts? You guys are just regurgitating left wing propaganda” etc…