Most definitely in an even market prices would be cheaper had Labour not forced coal generation to close. Also no doubt power is cheaper without a carbon tax.
So you expect power prices to go down and $500 back?
We wouldnât have the problem at all in Victoria and South Australia if Jeffrey Kennett and John Olsen had not sold the SECV and ETSA respectively to private owners. Hazelwood would have been mothballed 15 years ago as per the SECV plan and gas fired turbines would be in place. And perhaps the development of Wind Energy and Solar, that was a key research for the SECV Herman Labs in Richmond would also be in public hands and developed along side existing technology to compliment and supplement.
Hindsight is such a wonderful thing.
1: You bet your balls it is inadequate, that is my whole point.
2: One thing I didnât neglect is rooftop solar and I repeat âInconsistent, wildly fluctuating, highly expensive âfreeâ powerâ
I will qualfy that bit about highly expensive. Highly expensive to the suckers who are subsidising the $0.68 Kw feedin tariff I am receiving on my 5Kw system but pretty good for me, as for the inconsistent and wildly fluctuating part it still holds true. Maximum of 52 Kw in one day and 0.300 Kw on another.
3: Gas reserves are more than adequate IN OTHER STATES did you miss the point I was making about the lunatic incompetence of Daniel Andrews and the Labor Party in banning the the exploration for and banning of exploitation of Victorian reserves, the result of which is us having to buy gas from other states.
4: Brown coal provides BASE LOAD POWER something hydroelectricity can only do in minor quantity in this country. As for wind power, nobody has ever built a wind turbine from the power wind turbines generate, you need coal.
5: What climate change? The weather is no hotter now than it was in the 30âs, ever hear of the Federation drought? Black Saturday, purported to be the hottest day in Victoria EVER was the same temperature as Black Thursday in 1851, 160 years ago, We had a 10 year drought, happened before, will happen again. Ever read Dorothy McKellarâs poem, it not your education was pathetic.
6: Hiccups? expense? your jobs are walking out the door to places like China and India who donât give a ratsarse about the things you have been indoctrinated into and all over a level of plant food that has been 20 times higher in the past. At the present CO2 is 400ppm, it has been 8000ppm in the Holocene period and the worst growing conditions were less than 200 years ago when it was 320ppm. Cut it back to 160ppm and all life on earth will end.
Do a bit of research and look at the temperature gradient over the past 12,000 years, we are moving towards an Ice age.
Stop listening without criticism to the hypocrites that front the Green movement and I am talking about the convicted pervert Pachuri who told Westerners not to have iced water in restaurants because we were destroying the planet but took 2 round trips, New York to Mumbai to play in a local cricket game, John Travolta and his private plane, a Boeing 707. Al Gore and his 4 houses, the gullible Leonardo (Iroquois) DiCaprio taking a return trip from Hollywood to Cannes to pick up an environmental award then sailed a 244metre yacht from Cannes to Rio to watch a soccer game with his 20 mates he flew in to watch, Richard Branson who flew Tim Flannery from London on his private jet to his private island for a 2 week holiday and the on to Africa.
The world is full of these virtue signalling scam artists none of who act the way they demand you do, âSavingâ the planet is only for the peasants.
Start with Tim Flannery, $300,000 PA for a 3 day week with the Climate Commission and his enhanced geothermal energy project, close to $100 million down the gurgler, The no rain will fall again and what falls will not fill our dams. THAT was a good one, Desal plants all over Australia, $5 billion to build in Wonthaggi with another $19 billion in ongoing costs IF it isnât used, $43 billion if it works full time, $2 billion in NSW and WA, $1,5 billion in Brisbane, looked out the window lately? Not bad work for a mammalogist.
Good luck with your future
END OF RANT
Yeah, I have, butâŠit seems like some part of the country is having that once a century drought every decade now.
Not having a go too much, but, âLook at this thing that happened once!â isnât exactly compelling given whatâs happening is long term, and all going in one direction.
You kinda lose all credibility right there.
Once?
I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.
I love her far horizons,
I love her jewel-sea,
Her beauty and her terror
The wide brown land for me!
Who knew Dorothy McKellar was a sceptic.
Fighting me with poetry, eh?
And why not.
Youâll like this one.
âWeâll all be rooned,â said Hanrahan
In accents most forlorn
Outside the church ere Mass began
One frosty Sunday morn.
The congregation stood about,
Coat-collars to the ears,
And talked of stock and crops and drought
As it had done for years.
âItâs lookinâ crook,â said Daniel Croke;
âBedad, itâs cruke, me lad
For never since the banks went broke
Has seasons been so bad.â
âItâs dry, all right,â said young OâNeil,
With which astute remark
He squatted down upon his heel
And chewed a piece of bark.
And so around the chorus ran
âItâs keepinâ dry, no doubt.â
âWeâll all be rooned,â said Hanrahan,
"Before the year is out.
"The crops are done; yeâll have your work
To save one bag of grain;
From here way out to Back-Oâ-Bourke
Theyâre singinâ out for rain.
âTheyâre singinâ out for rain,â he said,
âAnd all the tanks are dry.â
The congregation scratched its head,
And gazed around the sky.
âThere wonât be grass, in any case,
Enough to feed an â â â ;
Thereâs not a blade on Caseyâs place
As I came down to Mass.â
âIf rain donât come this month,â said Dan,
And cleared his throat to speak â
âWeâll all be rooned,â said Hanrahan, "
If rain donât come this week."
A heavy silence seemed to steal
On all at this remark;
And each man squatted on his heel,
And chewed a piece of bark.
âWe want an inch of rain, we do,â
OâNeil observed at last;
But Croke âmaintainedâ we wanted two
To put the danger past.
âIf we donât get three inches, man,
Or four to break this drought,
Weâll all be rooned,â said Hanrahan,
âBefore the year is out.â
In godâs good time down came the rain;
And all the afternoon
On iron roof and window-pane
It drummed a homely tune.
And through the night it pattered still,
And lightsome, gladsome elves
On dripping spout and window-sill
Kept talking to themselves.
It pelted, pelted all day long,
A-singing at its work,
Till every heart took up the song
Way out to Back-Oâ-Bourke.
And every creek a banker ran,
And dams filled overtop;
âWeâll all be rooned,â said Hanrahan,
âIf this rain doesnât stop.â
And stop it did, in Godâs good time:
And spring came in to fold
A mantle oâer the hills sublime
Of green and pink and gold.
And days went by on dancing feet,
With harvest-hopes immense,
And laughing eyes beheld the wheat
Nid-nodding oâer the fence.
And, oh, the smiles on every face,
As happy lad and lass
Through grass knee-deep on Caseyâs place
Went riding down to Mass.
While round the church in clothes genteel
Discoursed the men of mark,
And each man squatted on his heel,
And chewed his piece of bark.
âThereâll be bush-fires for sure, me man,
There will, without a doubt;
Weâll all be rooned,â said Hanrahan,
âBefore the year is out.â
Wow your insight has won me over.
I best point out that Iâm being sarcastic as you are probably too gullible to detect it.
There you go resorting to insults again. Wait, I thought it was us lefties who did thatâŠ
FFS! Perhaps the most shocking thing in this thread is not the depths of ignorance plumbed by the ratbag right, but that 19th century mainstream poetry is censored by the nanny filters on discourse Blitz. FFS!*
*Yes, this did deserve the rare double-ended FFS.
You canât say G0d.
Itâs borked beyond borkedness.
When pressed to put up or shut up, your only argument was âclimate change is a natural phenomenon (duh), therefore it canât be caused by human activityâ. So I guess insults is all youâve got.
Ignore the mutt. Itâs as pointless as trying to get sense out of the other Tripping goose.
Suggesting someone is gullible is hardly an insult particularly with the topic of this thread in mind. However if I have offended you I apologize.
The Bureau now admits that it changes the temperature series and quite dramatically through the process of homogenisation.
Read the article then watch the video.
http://jennifermarohasy.com/2014/08/heat-is-on-over-weather-bureau-homogenising-temperature-records/
The basis of science, If the results do not fit the theory the theory is wrong.
Then ask why do the climate scientists change the temperatures.
Ignore if you think Richard Feynman is a fool.
I love this one, thatâs why I posted it recently.
FAILED CLIMATE PREDICTIONS (and some related stupid sayings)
- âDue to global warming, the coming winters in the local regions will become milder.â
Stefan Rahmstorf, Potsdam Institute of Climate Impact Research, University of Potsdam, February 8, 2006
- âMilder winters, drier summers: Climate study shows a need to adapt in Saxony Anhalt.â
Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, Press Release, January 10, 2010.
- âMore heat waves, no snow in the winter⊠Climate models⊠over 20 times more precise than the UN IPCC global models. In no other country do we have more precise calculations of climate consequences. They should form the basis for political planning⊠Temperatures in the wintertime will rise the most⊠there will be less cold air coming to Central Europe from the eastâŠIn the Alps winters will be 2°C warmer already between 2021 and 2050.â
Max Planck Institute for Meteorology, Hamburg, September 2, 2008.
- âThe new Germany will be characterized by dry-hot summers and warm-wet winters.â
Wilhelm Gerstengarbe and Peter Werner, Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK), March 2, 2007
- âClear climate trends are seen from the computer simulations. Foremost the winter months will be warmer all over Germany. Depending of CO2 emissions, temperatures will rise by up to 4°C, in the Alps by up to 5°C.â
Max Planck Institute for Meteorology, Hamburg, 7 Dec 2009.
- âIn summer under certain conditions the scientists reckon with a complete melting of the Arctic sea ice. For Europe we expect an increase in drier and warmer summers. Winters on the other hand will be warmer and wetter.â
Erich Roeckner, Max Planck Institute, Hamburg, 29 Sept 2005.
- âThe more than âunusually âwarm January weather is yet âanother extreme eventâ, âa harbinger of the winters that are ahead of usâ. ⊠The global temperature will âincrease every year by 0.2°Cââ
Michael MĂŒller, Socialist, State Secretary in the Federal Ministry of Environment,
Die Zeit, 15 Jan 2007
- âHarsh winters likely will be more seldom and precipitation in the wintertime will be heavier everywhere. However, due to the milder temperatures, itâll fall more often as rain than as snow.â
Online-Atlas of the Helmholtz-Gemeinschaft, 2010 - âWeâve mostly had mild winters in which only a few cold months were scattered about, like January 2009. This winter is a cold outlier, but that doesnât change the picture as a whole. Generally itâs going to get warmer, also in the wintertime.â
Gerhard MĂŒller-Westermeier, German Weather Service (DWD), 26 Jan 2010
- âWinters with strong frost and lots of snow like we had 20 years ago will cease to exist at our latitudes.â
Mojib Latif, Max Planck Institute for Meteorology, Hamburg, 1 April 2000
- âGood bye winter. Never again snow?â
Spiegel, 1 April 2000
- âIn the northern part of the continent there likely will be some benefits in the form of reduced cold periods and higher agricultural yields. But the continued increase in temperatures will cancel off these benefits. In some regions up to 60% of the species could die off by 2080.â
3Sat, 26 June 2003
- âAlthough the magnitude of the trends shows large variation among different models, Miller et al. (2006) find that none of the 14 models exhibits a trend towards a lower NAM index and higher arctic SLP.â
IPCC 2007 4AR, (quoted by Georg Hoffmann)
- âBased on the rising temperature, less snow will be expected regionally. While currently 1/3 of the precipitation in the Alps falls as snow, the snow-share of precipitation by the end of the century could end up being just one sixth.â
Germanwatch, Page 7, Feb 2007
- âAssuming there will be a doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere, as is projected by the year 2030. The consequences could be hotter and drier summers, and winters warmer and wetter. Such a warming will be proportionately higher at higher elevations â and especially will have a powerful impact on the glaciers of the Firn regions.â
and
â The ski areas that reliably have snow will shift from 1200 meters to 1500 meters elevation by the year 2050; because of the climate prognoses warmer winters have to be anticipated.â
Scinexx Wissenschaft Magazin, 26 Mar 2002
- âYesterdayâs snow⊠Because temperatures in the Alps are rising quickly, there will be more precipitation in many places. But because it will rain more often than it snows, this will be bad news for tourists. For many ski lifts this means the end of business.â
Daniela Jacob, Max Planck Institute for Meteorology, Hamburg, 8 Aug 2006
- âSpring will begin in January starting in 2030.â
Die Welt, 30 Sept 2010
- âIce, snow, and frost will disappear, i.e. milder wintersâ ⊠âUnusually warm winters without snow and ice are now being viewed by many as signs of climate change.â
Schleswig Holstein NABU, 10 Feb 2007
- âGood bye winter⊠In the northern hemisphere the deviations are much greater according to NOAA calculations, in some areas up to 5°C. That has consequences says DWD meteorologist MĂŒller-Westermeier: When the snowline rises over large areas, the bare ground is warmed up even more by sunlight. This amplifies global warming. A process that is uncontrollable â and for this reason understandably arouses old childhood fears: First the snow disappears, and then winter.â
Die Zeit, 16 Mar 2007
- âWarm in the winter, dry in the summer ⊠Long, hard winters in Germany remain rare: By 2085 large areas of the Alps and Central German Mountains will be almost free of snow. Because air temperatures in winter will rise more quickly than in summer, there will be more precipitation. âHowever, much of it will fall as rain,â says Daniela Jacob of the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology.â
FOCUS, 24 May 2006
- âConsequences and impacts for regional agriculture: Hotter summers, milder plus shorter winters (palm trees!). Agriculture: More CO2 in the air, higher temperatures, foremost in winter.â
Dr. Michael Schirmer, University of Bremen, presentation of 2 Feb 2007
- âWinters: wet and mildâ
Bavarian State Ministry for Agriculture, presentation 23 Aug 2007
- âThe climate model prognoses currently indicate that the following climate changes will occur: Increase in minimum temperatures in the winter.â
Chamber of Agriculture of Lower Saxony Date: 6 July 2009
- âBoth the prognoses for global climate development and the prognoses for the climatic development of the Fichtel Mountains clearly show a warming of the average temperature, whereby especially the winter months will be greatly impacted.â
Willi Seifert, University of Bayreuth, diploma thesis, p. 203, 7 July 2004
- âAlready in the year 2025 the conditions for winter sports in the Fichtel Mountains will develop negatively, especially with regards to ânaturalâ snow conditions and for so-called snow-making potential. A financially viable ski business operation after about the year 2025 appears under these conditions to be extremely improbable (Seifert, 2004)â.
Andreas Matzarakis, University of Freiburg Meteorological Institute, 26 July 2006
- âSkiing among palm trees? ⊠For this reason I would advise no one in the Berchtesgadener Land to invest in a ski-lift. The probability of earning money with the global warming is getting less and less.â
Hartmut GraĂl, Director Emeritus,
Max Planck-Institute for Meteorology, Hamburg, page 3, 4 Mar 2006
- âClimate warming leads to an increasingly higher snow line. The number of future ski resorts that can be expected to have snow is reducing. [âŠ] Climate change does not only lead to higher temperatures, but also to changes in the precipitation ratios in summer and winter. [âŠ] In the wintertime more precipitation is to be anticipated. However, it will fall more often as rain, and less often as snow, in the future.â
Hans Elsasser, Director of the Geographical Institute of the University of Zurich, 4 Mar 2006
- âAll climate simulations â global and regional â were carried out at the Deutschen Klimarechenzentrum [German Climate Simulation Center]. [âŠ] In the winter months the temperature rise is from 1.5°C to 2°C and stretches from Scandinavia to the Mediterranean Sea. Only in regions that are directly influenced by the Atlantic (Great Britain, Portugal, parts of Spain) will the winter temperature increase be less (Fig. 1).â
Max Planck Institute for Meteorology, Press Release, Date: December 2007/January 2013.
- âBy the year 2050 ⊠temperatures will rise 1.5ÂșC to 2.5°C (summer) and 3°C (winter). ⊠in the summer it will rain up to 40% less and in the winter up to 30% more.
German Federal Department of Highways, 1 Sept 2010
- âWe are now at the threshold of making reliable statements about the future.â
Daniela Jacob, Max Planck Institute for Meteorology, Hamburg, page 44, 10/2001
- âThe scenarios of climate scientists are unanimous about one thing: In the future in Germany we will have to live with drier and drier summers and a lot more rain in the winters.â
Gerhard MĂŒller-Westermeier, German Weather Service (DWD), 20 May 2010
- âIn the wintertime the winds will be more from the west and will bring storms to Germany. Especially in western and southern Germany there will be flooding.â FOCUS / Mojib Latif, Leibniz Institute for Ocean Sciences of the University of Kiel, 27 May 2006.
- âWhile the increases in the springtime appear as rather modest, the (late)summer and winter months are showing an especially powerful warming trend.â
State Ministry of Environment, Agriculture and Geology, Saxony, p. 133, Schriftenreihe Heft 25/2009.
- âWarm Winters Result From Greenhouse Effect, Columbia Scientists Find, Using NASA Model ⊠Despite appearing as part of a natural climate oscillation, the large increases in wintertime surface temperatures over the continents may therefore be attributable in large part to human activities,â
Science Daily, Dr. Drew Shindell 4 June 1999
- âWithin a few years winter snowfall will become a very rare and exciting event. ⊠Children just arenât going to know what snow is.â
David Viner, Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia, 20 March 2000
- âThis data confirms what many gardeners believe â winters are not as hard as they used to be. ⊠And if recent trends continue a white Christmas in Wales could certainly be a thing of the past.â
BBC, Dr Jeremy Williams, Bangor University, Lecturer in Geomatics, 20 Dec 2004
- The rise in temperature associated with climate change leads to a general reduction in the proportion of precipitation falling as snow, and a consequent reduction in many areas in the duration of snow cover.â
Global Environmental Change, Nigel W. Arnell, Geographer, 1 Oct 1999
- âComputer models predict that the temperature rise will continue at that accelerated pace if emissions of heat-trapping gases are not reduced, and also predict that warming will be especially pronounced in the wintertime.â
Star News, William K. Stevens, New York Times, 11 Mar 2000
- âIn a warmer world, less winter precipitation falls as snow and the melting of winter snow occurs earlier in spring. Even without any changes in precipitation intensity, both of these effects lead to a shift in peak river runoff to winter and early spring, away from summer and autumn.â
Nature, T. P. Barnett et. al., 17 Nov 2005
- âWe are beginning to approximate the kind of warming you should see in the winter season.â
Star News, Mike Changery, National Climatic Data Center, 11 Mar 2000
- âMilder winter temperatures will decrease heavy snowstorms but could cause an increase in freezing rain if average daily temperatures fluctuate about the freezing point.â
IPCC Climate Change, 2001
- âGlobal climate change is likely to be accompanied by an increase in the frequency and intensity of heat waves, as well as warmer summers and milder wintersâŠ9.4.2. Decreased Mortality Resulting from Milder Winters ⊠One study estimates a decrease in annual cold-related deaths of 20,000 in the UK by the 2050s (a reduction of 25%)â
IPCC Climate Change, 2001
- âThe lowest winter temperatures are likely to increase more than average winter temperature in northern Europe. âŠThe duration of the snow season is very likely to shorten in all of Europe, and snow depth is likely to decrease in at least most of Europe.â
IPCC Climate Change, 2007
- âSnowlines are going up in altitude all over the world. The idea that we will get less snow is absolutely in line with what we expect from global warming.â
WalesOnline, Sir John Houghton â atmospheric physicist, 30 June 2007
- âIn the UK wetter winters are expected which will lead to more extreme rainfall, whereas summers are expected to get drier. However, it is possible under climate change that there could be an increase of extreme rainfall even under general drying.â
Telegraph, Dr. Peter Stott, Met Office, 24 July 2007
- âWinter has gone forever and we should officially bring spring forward instead. ⊠There is no winter any more despite a cold snap before Christmas. It is nothing like years ago when I was younger. There is a real problem with spring because so much is flowering so early year to year.â
Express, Dr Nigel Taylor, Curator of Kew Gardens, 8 Feb 2008
- âThe past is no longer a guide to the future. We no longer have a stationary climate,ââŠ
Independent, Dr. Peter Stott, Met Office, 27 Jul 2007
- âIt is consistent with the climate change message. It is exactly what we expect winters to be like â warmer and wetter, and dryer and hotter summers. âŠthe winter we have just seen is consistent with the type of weather we expect to see more and more in the future.â
Wayne Elliott, Met Office meteorologist, BBC, 27 Feb 2007
- â If your decisions depend on whatâs happening at these very fine scales of 25 km or even 5 km resolution then you probably shouldnât be making irreversible investment decisions now.â
Myles Allen, âone of the UKâs leading climate modellersâ, Oxford University, 18 June 2009
- âItâs great that the government has decided to put together such a scientifically robust analysis of the potential impacts of climate change in the UK.â
Keith Allott, WWF-UK, 18 June 2009
- âThe data collected by experts from the university [of Bangor] suggests that a white Christmas on Snowdon â the tallest mountain in England and Wales â may one day become no more than a memory.â
BBC News, 20 Dec 2004
[BBC 2013: âSnowdon Mountain Railway will be shut over the Easter weekend after it was hit by 30ft (9.1m) snow drifts.â]
- âSpring is arriving earlier each year as a result of climate change, the first âconclusive proofâ that global warming is altering the timing of the seasons, scientists announced yesterday.â
Guardian, 26 Aug 2006.
- âGiven the increase in the average winter temperature it is obvious that the number of frost days and the number of days that the snow remains, will decline. For Europe the models indicate that cold winters such as at the end of the 20th century, that happened at an average once every ten years, will gradually disappear in the course of the century.â (p. 19), and
ââŠbut it might well be that nothing remains of the snowjoy in the Hautes Fagnes but some yellowed photos because of the climate change ⊠moreover an increase in winter precipitation would certainly not be favorable for recreation!â (p38)
Jean-Pascal van Ypersele and Philippe Marbaix, Greenpeace, 2004
- âShindellâs model predicts that if greenhouse gases continue to increase, winter in the Northern Hemisphere will continue to warm. âIn our model, weâre seeing a very large signal of global warming and itâs not a naturally occurring thing. Itâs most likely linked to greenhouse gases,â he said.
NASA, GISS, 2 June 1999
- âWe have seen that in the last years and decades that winters have become much milder than before and that there isnât nearly as much snowfall. All simulations show this trend will continue in the future and that we have to expect an intense warming in the AlpsâŠespecially in the foothills, snow will turn to rain and winter sports will no longer be possible anymore.â
Mojib Latif, Leibnitz Institute for Oceanography, University of Kiel, February 17, 2005
- Planning for a snowless future: âOur study is already showing that that there will be a much worse situation in 20 years.â
Christopher Krull, Black Forest Tourism Association / Spiegel, 17 Feb 2005
- âRhineland-Palatinate, as will be the case for all of Central Europe, will be affected by higher than average warming rates and winters with snow disappearing increasingly.â
Prof. Dr. Hartmut Grassl, âinternationally renowned meteorologistâ, Director Emeritus, Max Planck Institute for Meteorology, Hamburg, 20 Nov 2008
- âWith the pace of global warming increasing, some climate change experts predict that the Scottish ski industry will cease to exist within 20 years.â
Guardian, 14 February 2004
[4 January 2013: âNevis Range, The Lecht, Cairngorm, Glenshee and Glencoe all remain closed today due to the heavy snow and strong winds.â]
- âUnfortunately, itâs just getting too hot for the Scottish ski industry.â
David Viner, Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia, 14 Feb 2004
- âFor the Baltic ringed seal, climate change could mean its demiseâ warned a team of scientists at the Baltic Sea Experiment (Baltex) conference in Goteborg. âThis is because the warming leads to the ice on the Baltic Sea to melt earlier and earlier every year.â
Spiegel, 3 June 2006
[The Local 2013: âLate-season freeze sets Baltic ice record ⊠Iâve never seen this much ice this late in the season.â]
- Forecasters Predict More Mild Winter for Europe
Reuters, Nov 09, 2012
FRANKFURT â European weather in the coming winter now looks more likely to be mild than in previous studies, German meteorologist Georg Mueller said in a monthly report.
âThe latest runs are generally in favor of a milder than normal winter, especially over northern Europe.â
- âSpring is arriving earlier each year as a result of climate change, the first âconclusive proofâ that global warming is altering the timing of the seasons, scientists announced yesterday.â
Guardian, 26 August 2006.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2006/aug/26/climatechange.climatechangeenvironment
- âGiven the increase in the average winter temperature it is obvious that the number of frost days and the number of days that the snow remains, will decline. For Europe the models indicate that cold winters such as at the end of the 20th century, that happened at an average once every ten years, will gradually disappear in the course of the century.â (p19)
ââŠbut it might well be that nothing remains of the snowjoy in the Hautes Fagnes but some yellowed photos because of the climate change ⊠moreover an increase in winter precipitation would certainly not be favorable for recreation!â (p38)
Impact of the climate change in Belgium (translated from Dutch).
Jean-Pascal van Ypersele and Philippe Marbaix for Greenpeace, 2004
- âThe hottest year since 1659 spells global doomâ
Telegraph December 14, 2006
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1536852/The-hottest-year-since-1659-spells-global-doom.html
- âJay Wynne from the BBC Weather Centre presents reports for typical days in 2020, 2050 and 2080 as predicted by our experiment.â
BBCs Climate Change Experiment
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/climateexperiment/whattheymean/theuk.shtml
- âCold winters would gradually disappear.â (p.4)
- âIn Belgium, snow on the ground could become increasingly rare but there would be plenty of grey sky and rain in winterâŠâ (p.6)
The Greenpeace report âImpacts of climate change in Belgiumâ is available in an abbreviated version in English:
http://www.greenpeace.org/belgium/PageFiles/19049/SumIB_uk.pdf
Impacts of climate change in Belgium
Jean-Pascal van Ypersele and Philippe Marbaix for Greenpeace, 2004
Climate scientist van Ypersele is Vice Chair of the IPCC.
- âWarmer and Wetter Winters in Europe and Western North America Linked to Increasing Greenhouse Gases.â
NASA, June 2, 1999
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/19990602/
- âThe global temperature will increase every year by 0.2°Câ
Michael MĂŒller, Socialist, State Secretary in the Federal Ministry of Environment, in Die Zeit, January 15, 2007
- âUnfortunately, itâs just getting too hot for the Scottish ski industry. It is very vulnerable to climate change; the resorts have always been marginal in terms of snow and, as the rate of climate change increases, it is hard to see a long-term future.â
David Viner, of the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia.
February 14, 2004
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/feb/14/climatechange.scotland
- âClimate change will have the effect of pushing more and more winter sports higher and higher up mountains,âŠâ
Rolf Burki and his colleagues at the University of Zurich
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/dec/03/research.sciencenews
- â In the future, snowdrops will be out in January, primroses in February, mayflowers and lilac in April and wild roses in May, the ponds will be full of tadpoles in March and a month later even the oaks will be in full leaf. If that isnât enough, autumn probably wonât begin until October.â
Geraint Smith, Science Correspondent, Standard
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/british-seasons-start-to-shift-6358532.html
- âThe West Side Highway [which runs along the Hudson River] will be under water. And there will be tape across the windows across the street because of high winds. And the same birds wonât be there. The trees in the median strip will changeâŠ.There will be more police carsâŠ.[since] you know what happens to crime when the heat goes up.â
Dr. James Hansen, 1988, in an interview with author Rob Reiss.
Reiss asked how the greenhouse effect was likely to affect the neighborhood below Hansenâs office in NYC in the next 20 years.
- March 20, 2000, from The Independent, According to Dr David Viner of the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit, snowfall in Britain would become âa very rare and exciting eventâ and âchildren just arenât going to know what snow is.â
- September 2006, Arnold Schwarzenegger signing Californiaâs anti-emissions law, âWe simply must do everything in our power to slow down global warming before it is too lateâŠThe science is clear. The global warming debate is over.â
- 1990 Actress Meryl Streep âBy the year 2000 â thatâs less than ten years awayâearthâs climate will be warmer than itâs been in over 100,000 years. If we donât do something, thereâll be enormous calamities in a very short time.â
- April 2008, Media Mogul Ted Turner on Charlie Rose (On not taking drastic action to correct global warming) âNot doing it will be catastrophic. Weâll be eight degrees hotter in ten, not ten but 30 or 40 years and basically none of the crops will grow. Most of the people will have died and the rest of us will be cannibals.â
[Strictly speaking, this is not a failed prediction. It wonât be until at least 2048 that our church-going and pie-baking neighbors come after us for their noonday meal. But the prediction is so bizarre that it is included it here.]
- January 1970 Life Magazine âScientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support âŠthe following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollutionâŠby 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one halfâŠâ
- âEarth Dayâ 1970 Kenneth Watt, ecologist: âAt the present rate of nitrogen build-up, itâs only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.â
- âEarth Dayâ 1970 Kenneth Watt, ecologist: âThe world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.â
- April 28, 1975 Newsweek âThere are ominous signs that Earthâs weather patterns have begun to change dramaticallyâŠ.The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with itâŠ.The central fact is thatâŠthe earthâs climate seems to be cooling downâŠIf the climate change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic.â
- 1976 Lowell Ponte in âThe Cooling,â: âThis cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people. If it continues and no strong action is taken, it will cause world famine, world chaos and world war, and this could all come about before the year 2000.â
- July 9, 1971, Washington Post: âIn the next 50 years fine dust that humans discharge into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuel will screen out so much of the sunâs rays that the Earthâs average temperature could fall by six degrees. Sustained emissions over five to ten years, could be sufficient to trigger an ice age.â
- June, 1975, Nigel Calder in International Wildlife: âThe continued rapid cooling of the earth since WWII is in accord with the increase in global air pollution associated with industrialization, mechanization, urbanization and exploding population.â
- June 30, 1989, Associated Press: U.N. OFFICIAL PREDICTS DISASTER, SAYS GREENHOUSE EFFECT COULD WIPE SOME NATIONS OFF MAPâentire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth by rising sea levels if global warming is not reversed by the year 2000. Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of âeco-refugees,â threatening political chaos,â said Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program. He added that governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect.
- Sept 19, 1989, St. Louis Post-Dispatch: âNew York will probably be like Florida 15 years from now.â
- December 5, 1989, Dallas Morning News: âSome predictions for the next decade are not difficult to makeâŠAmericans may see the â80s migration to the Sun Belt reverse as a global warming trend rekindles interest in cooler climates.â
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