That’s pretty bad luck, maybe they thought they were immune and went out without masks in a pandemic. At best it’s around 7 days before the vaccine is working effectively and two weeks before full strength. Was your mate’s daughter immuno compromised also? It’s a deadly disease, highly contageous and especially dangerous to unhealthy individuals.
I’d add I hope someone got her some medical help, a lot of people just waited until they died.
There was always going to be an uptick in average deaths in the 2 to 4 years post COVID. When you have hospitals providing restricted services then lots of early screening of serious illnesses is missed, and then once you open up there will be deaths from COVID because the vaccines can’t provide 100% coverage. Anyway expect death rates to go back to normal levels in 2025 or 2026.
Did you actually read the 2 links you posted?
I had the same reaction. Those articles actually support the opposite viewpoint.
I could point people to the latest research and long term follow up studies on myocarditis/pericarditis from vaccines vs the same from COVID.
I could talk about how correlation is not causality, which is why it takes studies on massive numbers of people to get an accurate picture of causality.
I could talk about how all the evidence from independent scientific studies hasn’t suddenly changed in the last couple of years, and the original benefits of bulk vaccination way outweighed the risks, even if the figures don’t necessarily read the same now that almost everyone has some acquired immunity, and we’re dealing with very different strains nowadays.
I could talk about how many lives of vulnerable people were saved by those who weren’t vulnerable accepting vaccinations and lockdowns, even if they didn’t like it. Possibly the only example in our lifetimes of almost the whole community coming together to sacrifice for others, rather than only caring about themselves, and their own individual risk.
But honestly, I can’t be bothered anymore. Those who spend their time reading articles where non-professionals give their non-professional opinions on how select data shows exactly the opposite of what professionals in the field have been saying for years, aren’t going to believe anything they don’t want to anyway.
My review. Comment welcome
The joy of the world beating a novel respiratory virus seems to have turned into a blame game against those brave enough to develop vaccines and various politicians who flew by the seat of their pants listening to the best expert advice they could find trying to balance saving lives against economics.
Early on, before the more benign mutations appeared, the symptoms were that the infection was deep in the lung and the death rate was high with patients dying from cytokine storm in the lungs and doctors were in despair about how to save critically ill patients in ICU.
Then, as predicted by some experts, the dominant mutation outcompeted the original Wuham strain, and the symptoms moved to the nasopharynx.
It was around this time that the first vaccines and antivirals became available. Because the disease caused nasopharynx symptoms it was far less lethal.
But it was decided that the vaccines should be rolled out worldwide.
Now we got into trouble as the death rate due to the dominant strain reduced, deaths started to pop up due to pericarditis etc, and this was in the young, who were not often effected by the Wuhan strain.
As it turned out, the vaccines had side effects, in some cases lethal. But there was also talk of “long COVID” and vaccinated folk still got COVID.
So given that, I believe that on balance, the vaccination should have been discontinued and antivirals used on patients as soon as the symptoms moved to the upper airway, except maybe for the very elderly and immuno compromised people.
As it stands now the COVID virus effectively sits among 2 or 3 other corona viruses and the rhino viruses as part of the common cold complex as we see it, but it is potentially more lethal than the rhinoviruses.
But how were the authorities supposed to know all this. It was a novel virus in 2020 and the experts had no way of knowing for sure that it would become more benign as it mutated.
Isn’t this essentially what happened organically once the mandates dropped?
Not officially in Oz. But personally yes, and this involved me having an argument with my doctor who said that the TGA was mandating doctors to recommend it. I was 70 at the time and in good health with zero comorbidities. I had 2 jabs and breezed through a bout of COVID, so I was done with COVID jabs. I did, however have a tetanus booster and pneumococcal vax. I am definitely NOT antivax.
I thought we’d all agreed not to eat bats anymore?
It was a discussion
Looks like not everyone got the memo…
Nor pet dogs and cats since the US elections.
I was prescribed antivirals the last time I got COVID. I got very ill and spent a night in hospital due to them. No-one could explain why, just don’t take them.
Irony was that I was not that sick, but the pressure to take antivirals from everyone was huge.
Most people that i know that have had Anti virals have usually said good things about them.
Yep I am always the exception.
I was very sick after taking them, would love to know why !
I would advise not taking those antivirals. And probably did in this thread or an earlier one.
Some friend you are ! Why didn’t you give me a special warning?
I didn’t even know when you got covid. Why didn’t you pay attention to my posts?
No excuse