Have Tippa spend some time in his vicinity this week.
Do not want
Iâm surprised North can afford to pay out $200K per year.
They can easily afford it when you, me and every other member are paying for it.
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Geez Iâm not sure. Yeah he can play, but duck me, surely thereâs is another target thatâs almost as good but less of a kn@b jockey.
No. No thereâs not. Thereâs Fyfe and Martin.
Nobody else even comes close to that level of quality in the FA market. Thereâs probably some other young guns out of contract but we would have to give up a lot of valued draft picks and quality players to get them. Iâm all for that too if the price is right but when all you have to give up for Fyfe and Martin is a portion of the salary cap, I favour the FA option.
At this point I wouldnât think Freo or Richmond will finish low enough on the ladder that they wouldnât just match a FA bid. Unless the contract is absurd, I reckon if anyone gets either of them, theyâll be trading for them.
So what youâre saying is Iâm right and we should consider chasing Fyfe and forget the white trash.
I wouldnât want Martin, but on either him or fyfe I hope our recruiters wait and see how Geelong go this year first, as a measuring stick as is it worth taking the risk of selling the farm for one player.
If geelong donât win the flag, thatâs another waste of a season IMO, they went out and brought the best player in the comp chasing a quick turn around and rebuild, they sold their medium to long term future for the here and now. Again if they donât win it this year, thatâs a massive fail IMO.
buying the cream of the crop very rarely seems to work out.
Carlton and Judd
sydney and Franklin and tippett (altho they still made it to a gf and deep into finals i guess)
You just have to give up way to much, in both salary cap space and picks/players to get the job done.
What about Boyd and the Doggies.
I understand what you mean though.
What about Boyd and the Doggies.
I understand what you mean though.
yeah itâs an odd one that cos boyd wasnât and still isnât a superstar, and they had to pay that on potential to get him to the dogs cos at the time they were down the bottom and coachless, so he wasnât gonna simply move for the hell of it.
Will be interesting to see how that pans out though, esp with their ability to retain some of their players going forward.
Maybe thatâs why essendon is supposedly offering more money to JJ and no doubt man other sides are throwing big bucks at underpaid dogs players atm.
I wouldnât want Martin, but on either him or fyfe I hope our recruiters wait and see how Geelong go this year first, as a measuring stick as is it worth taking the risk of selling the farm for one player.
If geelong donât win the flag, thatâs another waste of a season IMO, they went out and brought the best player in the comp chasing a quick turn around and rebuild, they sold their medium to long term future for the here and now. Again if they donât win it this year, thatâs a massive fail IMO.
buying the cream of the crop very rarely seems to work out.
Carlton and Judd
sydney and Franklin and tippett (altho they still made it to a gf and deep into finals i guess)
You just have to give up way to much, in both salary cap space and picks/players to get the job done.
I think thereâs an argument to be made that if you do sell the farm, so to speak, youâre better off selling for a big rather than a small. Yes, you might get a Brownlow out of it, but IMO key forwards (and some defenders) are where itâs at with regard to big coin purchases. Theyâre typically the ones who win you games of footy, and typically, theyâre harder to come by.
Just throw a heap of cash at him if Richmond match it donât do anything
I wouldnât want Martin, but on either him or fyfe I hope our recruiters wait and see how Geelong go this year first, as a measuring stick as is it worth taking the risk of selling the farm for one player.
If geelong donât win the flag, thatâs another waste of a season IMO, they went out and brought the best player in the comp chasing a quick turn around and rebuild, they sold their medium to long term future for the here and now. Again if they donât win it this year, thatâs a massive fail IMO.
buying the cream of the crop very rarely seems to work out.
Carlton and Judd
sydney and Franklin and tippett (altho they still made it to a gf and deep into finals i guess)
You just have to give up way to much, in both salary cap space and picks/players to get the job done.
Geelong traded pick 9, 28 & Dean Gore for Dangerfield. They are already miles in front & made a prelim last year plus of course the Brownlow & all the extra memberships & merchandise. The thing is that 1 trade for 1 star is never going to be enough to win a premiership but if you can add a star player to a good team who have also drafted well enough to be a contender then a star can only make them better.
Carlton didnât win a flag with Judd but would they really have been any more successful with Kennedy, Masten & Notte? Carton failed not because of Judd but because they drafted poorly particularly with anything outside the 1st round. Sliding doors of course but imagine adding Judd having drafted Pendelbury instead of Murphy, Sellwood instead of Gibbs & Goldstein instead of Austin which in turn led to drafting Cotchin instead of Kruzer, Easton Wood instead of Browne & Hooker instead of Armfield.
Also Danger isnt on the $1-1.2mil, heâs on about $800k IIRC. Itâs a massive win for Cats.
Geelong traded pick 9, 28 & Dean Gore for Dangerfield. They are already miles in front & made a prelim last year plus of course the Brownlow & all the extra memberships & merchandise. The thing is that 1 trade for 1 star is never going to be enough to win a premiership but if you can add a star player to a good team who have also drafted well enough to be a contender then a star can only make them better.
Carlton didnât win a flag with Judd but would they really have been any more successful with Kennedy, Masten & Notte? Carton failed not because of Judd but because they drafted poorly particularly with anything outside the 1st round. Sliding doors of course but imagine adding Judd having drafted Pendelbury instead of Murphy, Sellwood instead of Gibbs & Goldstein instead of Austin which in turn led to drafting Cotchin instead of Kruzer, Easton Wood instead of Browne & Hooker instead of Armfield.
There inlies the connundrum of it all I guess.
I should add Geelong while maybe not selling the farm solely on danger, they did it for him and went out and brought other players in chasing that flag (henderson, smith stanley, the selwood brother and this year thuhey from carlton.
who knows thought as itâs just ponderings that can never be proven. Would kennedy have improved them, you could argue a case for yes and no.
All I know is geelong like I said sold their medium to long term future to chase a flag last year, this year and prolly next. the position they were in, you donât do that and have making a prelim as the highlight IMO. They tried to buy a flag last year and it didnât work, itâs on shaky ground atm this year too.
personally think the best way is to build up the core group of a team, then draft for what holes you need.
case in point Martin, we would have had to sell a fair bit to get him the last 2 years, even this year we would have to to.
Ironically we donât really need his role filled as such. If he was solely a midfielder sure, but itâs still 50 50 between mid and forward, and we have the players who are building to doing that as we speak (fanta, tippa, coyler etc)
At current lid off levels Iâm not sure how he gets into the team. We still have Langford, Gleeson, Lav and T-Bell to bring in. Maybe he could come off the bench for the twos.
North trying to get both Martin and Kelly smells of desperation imo.
I would really like Josh Kelly on our list but with the quality of kids coming through each year, I think a club is nuts to trade out its first rounders.
dusty or nate would be good if they were unhappy and had a go.home factor like dangerfield. But they donât. Itâs a pure money grab play. I know we kind of did that with Goddard, but it was hardly a multiple club million dollar bidding war.
At current lid off levels Iâm not sure how he gets into the team. We still have Langford, Gleeson, Lav and T-Bell to bring in. Maybe he could come off the bench for the twos.
Dylan Clarke has already gone past him, imo