Fark carlton continues

i ain’t poking that reverse schadenfreude bear

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Coward

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it hurts less

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P.S. Fark Carlton.
P.P.S. Fark anyone who doesn’t agree, even if “only” due to cowardice.

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How about you reopen that fark carlton match thread from way back

Ended up getting an assisted exit from the constabulary that night. Went a little overboard after the final siren.

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We did that to them twice that season.

FARK Carlton

May the bin chickens smash that navy scum!

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Cottrell missing our game is pretty handy for us.
Seems to have become an important player for the Blues.
Cancels out Duursma missing.

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Saw this on Rick Edwards twitter…
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The arrogance of this bloke is the reason I believe in Fark Carlton.

Fark Carlton all.

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Fark Carlton fitness boss deserves a payrise.

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Havent heard of half those players…dont know, dont care

Fark Carlton

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As much as the media keeps going on about all their injuries, they still have all their A graders. Lot’s of excuses.

Only notable players missing are Cerra, Docharty and Saad who will be back next week.

Far be it for me to suggest physical violence be inflicted on a person, but…

Nah, forget it!

All going well Fark Carlton will be out of the 8 at the end of this round.

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Bin Chickens, please,

For
Any
Respectability,
Kindly

Consider
All
Resources
Leading
To
Obliterating
No-bodies.

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Maybe we really did Fark Carlton!

Tom Papley trade revisited: What was fallout for Blues, Swans five years on?

Had Joe Daniher’s wish to join Sydney been granted in 2019, Tom Papley would have been a Blue — LACHLAN MCKIRDY and TIM MICHELL examine what the failed trade has meant
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Carlton fans still wonder what could have been.

Citing family and personal reasons, Tom Papley requested a return to Victoria — and trade to Carlton — after four seasons and 120 goals in Sydney.

Papley had just established himself as one of the best small forwards in the game, booting 37.28 to finish ahead of established stars including Luke Breust and Liam Ryan on the AFL’s goalkicking chart.

Days of negotiations during the trade period boiled down to one major factor — Essendon’s willingness to trade Joe Daniher to the Swans.for both Carlton and the Swans.
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Carlton fans still wonder what could have been.

Citing family and personal reasons, Tom Papley requested a return to Victoria — and trade to Carlton — after four seasons and 120 goals in Sydney.

Papley had just established himself as one of the best small forwards in the game, booting 37.28 to finish ahead of established stars including Luke Breust and Liam Ryan on the AFL’s goalkicking chart.

Days of negotiations during the trade period boiled down to one major factor — Essendon’s willingness to trade Joe Daniher to the Swans.

Patrick Cripps and Tom Papley square off.

Patrick Cripps and Tom Papley square off.

Joe Daniher requested a move to Sydney in 2019. Picture: Phil Hillyard

Joe Daniher requested a move to Sydney in 2019. Picture: Phil Hillyard

Sydney reportedly offered a future first-round pick and Carlton’s pick No.9 for Daniher, which the Blues would have sent north as part of the deal for Papley.

But when the Daniher aspect of the three-way deal fell over, Carlton was left high and dry and the contracted Papley stayed in the Harbour City.

It was later confirmed Essendon’s desire for a Swans player to be added was the sticking point and that even picks five (which Sydney used on Dylan Stephens) and nine (which belonged to Carlton) would not have satisfied the Bombers.

Papley — and to a lesser extent Carlton — became collateral damage.

Five years on, LACHLAN MCKIRDY and TIM MICHELL delve into what the failed trade has meant for both clubs.

CARLTON

THE LIST

Charlie Curnow and Harry McKay have won the past three Coleman medals, helping transform Carlton from a perennial battler into a premiership threat.

Since the start of 2022, when Curnow returned from a knee injury that threatened his career, that pair has combined for 269 goals — or 38 per cent of Carlton’s total goals.

Finding a player to complement Curnow and McKay remains the glaring issue in Carlton’s list build.

Jack Martin has talent but is too often injured.

Corey Durdin averages less than a goal a game.

Josh Honey arrived as a rookie in 2017 but was delisted after 17 games and 10 goals.

Jesse Motlop has shown promise but is yet to feature this season due to hamstring and toe injuries.

And Orazio Fantasia has been dropped to the VFL after two goals in seven matches as a Blue.

Carlton has tried — with limited success — to plug the hole Papley would have filled for five years.
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Carlton fans still wonder what could have been.

Citing family and personal reasons, Tom Papley requested a return to Victoria — and trade to Carlton — after four seasons and 120 goals in Sydney.

Papley had just established himself as one of the best small forwards in the game, booting 37.28 to finish ahead of established stars including Luke Breust and Liam Ryan on the AFL’s goalkicking chart.

Days of negotiations during the trade period boiled down to one major factor — Essendon’s willingness to trade Joe Daniher to the Swans.

Patrick Cripps and Tom Papley square off.

Patrick Cripps and Tom Papley square off.

Joe Daniher requested a move to Sydney in 2019. Picture: Phil Hillyard

Joe Daniher requested a move to Sydney in 2019. Picture: Phil Hillyard

Sydney reportedly offered a future first-round pick and Carlton’s pick No.9 for Daniher, which the Blues would have sent north as part of the deal for Papley.

But when the Daniher aspect of the three-way deal fell over, Carlton was left high and dry and the contracted Papley stayed in the Harbour City.

It was later confirmed Essendon’s desire for a Swans player to be added was the sticking point and that even picks five (which Sydney used on Dylan Stephens) and nine (which belonged to Carlton) would not have satisfied the Bombers.

Papley — and to a lesser extent Carlton — became collateral damage.

Five years on, LACHLAN MCKIRDY and TIM MICHELL delve into what the failed trade has meant for both clubs.

CARLTON

THE LIST

Charlie Curnow and Harry McKay have won the past three Coleman medals, helping transform Carlton from a perennial battler into a premiership threat.

Since the start of 2022, when Curnow returned from a knee injury that threatened his career, that pair has combined for 269 goals — or 38 per cent of Carlton’s total goals.

Finding a player to complement Curnow and McKay remains the glaring issue in Carlton’s list build.

Jack Martin has talent but is too often injured.

Corey Durdin averages less than a goal a game.

Josh Honey arrived as a rookie in 2017 but was delisted after 17 games and 10 goals.

Jesse Motlop has shown promise but is yet to feature this season due to hamstring and toe injuries.

And Orazio Fantasia has been dropped to the VFL after two goals in seven matches as a Blue.

Carlton has tried — with limited success — to plug the hole Papley would have filled for five years.

Tom Papley tackles Carlton’s Matthew Wright during a game in 2016. Picture: Michael Dodge/Getty Images

Tom Papley tackles Carlton’s Matthew Wright during a game in 2016. Picture: Michael Dodge/Getty Images

In that period, the best return from a Blues small forward has been 27 goals (Eddie Betts, 2021 and Matt Owies, 2023).

Papley averaged 34.5 goals a season from 2020-2023 and has 13 majors from nine games this year.

Papley was linked with a five-year deal worth between $600,000-$700,000 which would have put huge pressure on Carlton’s bulging salary cap.

The Blues landed Zac Williams as a free agent on big money and have since signed Harry McKay, Charlie Curnow, Sam Walsh and Patrick Cripps to long-term deals.
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Carlton fans still wonder what could have been.

Citing family and personal reasons, Tom Papley requested a return to Victoria — and trade to Carlton — after four seasons and 120 goals in Sydney.

Papley had just established himself as one of the best small forwards in the game, booting 37.28 to finish ahead of established stars including Luke Breust and Liam Ryan on the AFL’s goalkicking chart.

Days of negotiations during the trade period boiled down to one major factor — Essendon’s willingness to trade Joe Daniher to the Swans.

Patrick Cripps and Tom Papley square off.

Patrick Cripps and Tom Papley square off.

Joe Daniher requested a move to Sydney in 2019. Picture: Phil Hillyard

Joe Daniher requested a move to Sydney in 2019. Picture: Phil Hillyard

Sydney reportedly offered a future first-round pick and Carlton’s pick No.9 for Daniher, which the Blues would have sent north as part of the deal for Papley.

But when the Daniher aspect of the three-way deal fell over, Carlton was left high and dry and the contracted Papley stayed in the Harbour City.

It was later confirmed Essendon’s desire for a Swans player to be added was the sticking point and that even picks five (which Sydney used on Dylan Stephens) and nine (which belonged to Carlton) would not have satisfied the Bombers.

Papley — and to a lesser extent Carlton — became collateral damage.

Five years on, LACHLAN MCKIRDY and TIM MICHELL delve into what the failed trade has meant for both clubs.

CARLTON

THE LIST

Charlie Curnow and Harry McKay have won the past three Coleman medals, helping transform Carlton from a perennial battler into a premiership threat.

Since the start of 2022, when Curnow returned from a knee injury that threatened his career, that pair has combined for 269 goals — or 38 per cent of Carlton’s total goals.

Finding a player to complement Curnow and McKay remains the glaring issue in Carlton’s list build.

Jack Martin has talent but is too often injured.

Corey Durdin averages less than a goal a game.

Josh Honey arrived as a rookie in 2017 but was delisted after 17 games and 10 goals.

Jesse Motlop has shown promise but is yet to feature this season due to hamstring and toe injuries.

And Orazio Fantasia has been dropped to the VFL after two goals in seven matches as a Blue.

Carlton has tried — with limited success — to plug the hole Papley would have filled for five years.

Tom Papley tackles Carlton’s Matthew Wright during a game in 2016. Picture: Michael Dodge/Getty Images

Tom Papley tackles Carlton’s Matthew Wright during a game in 2016. Picture: Michael Dodge/Getty Images

In that period, the best return from a Blues small forward has been 27 goals (Eddie Betts, 2021 and Matt Owies, 2023).

Papley averaged 34.5 goals a season from 2020-2023 and has 13 majors from nine games this year.

Papley was linked with a five-year deal worth between $600,000-$700,000 which would have put huge pressure on Carlton’s bulging salary cap.

The Blues landed Zac Williams as a free agent on big money and have since signed Harry McKay, Charlie Curnow, Sam Walsh and Patrick Cripps to long-term deals.

Matt Owies has been one of Carlton’s most consistent forwards since the failed Papley trade. Picture: Robert Cianflone/Getty Images

Matt Owies has been one of Carlton’s most consistent forwards since the failed Papley trade. Picture: Robert Cianflone/Getty Images

Perhaps the biggest fallout from Papley’s arrival would have been an even greater salary squeeze when Tom De Koning came out of contract.

While the Blues were able to secure their big four, rivals including Sydney and St Kilda made significant overtures to De Koning which would have blown Carlton’s offer out of the water.

Carlton also had cap space to bring Adam Cerra back to Victoria when he asked to be traded in 2021.

Jacob Weitering is the next Blues star to come out of contract at the end of next year.

Meanwhile, the Blues are being strongly linked with a play for free agent Will Hayward in their latest effort to solve their small forward issues.

THE DRAFT

Carlton took pick nine to the draft after the Daniher deal fell over and had been strongly linked to now-Fremantle midfielder Hayden Young.

The Dockers pounced on Young and Caleb Serong before the Blues’ selection, prompting Carlton to bid on Liam Henry and Tom Green.

Then list boss Stephen Silvagni eventually split the pick, taking Brodie Kemp (pick 17) and draft bolter Sam Philp (pick 20).

Each year since then — bar 2022 — the Blues have taken a small forward in either the national, rookie or pre-season drafts.
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Carlton fans still wonder what could have been.

Citing family and personal reasons, Tom Papley requested a return to Victoria — and trade to Carlton — after four seasons and 120 goals in Sydney.

Papley had just established himself as one of the best small forwards in the game, booting 37.28 to finish ahead of established stars including Luke Breust and Liam Ryan on the AFL’s goalkicking chart.

Days of negotiations during the trade period boiled down to one major factor — Essendon’s willingness to trade Joe Daniher to the Swans.

Patrick Cripps and Tom Papley square off.

Patrick Cripps and Tom Papley square off.

Joe Daniher requested a move to Sydney in 2019. Picture: Phil Hillyard

Joe Daniher requested a move to Sydney in 2019. Picture: Phil Hillyard

Sydney reportedly offered a future first-round pick and Carlton’s pick No.9 for Daniher, which the Blues would have sent north as part of the deal for Papley.

But when the Daniher aspect of the three-way deal fell over, Carlton was left high and dry and the contracted Papley stayed in the Harbour City.

It was later confirmed Essendon’s desire for a Swans player to be added was the sticking point and that even picks five (which Sydney used on Dylan Stephens) and nine (which belonged to Carlton) would not have satisfied the Bombers.

Papley — and to a lesser extent Carlton — became collateral damage.

Five years on, LACHLAN MCKIRDY and TIM MICHELL delve into what the failed trade has meant for both clubs.

CARLTON

THE LIST

Charlie Curnow and Harry McKay have won the past three Coleman medals, helping transform Carlton from a perennial battler into a premiership threat.

Since the start of 2022, when Curnow returned from a knee injury that threatened his career, that pair has combined for 269 goals — or 38 per cent of Carlton’s total goals.

Finding a player to complement Curnow and McKay remains the glaring issue in Carlton’s list build.

Jack Martin has talent but is too often injured.

Corey Durdin averages less than a goal a game.

Josh Honey arrived as a rookie in 2017 but was delisted after 17 games and 10 goals.

Jesse Motlop has shown promise but is yet to feature this season due to hamstring and toe injuries.

And Orazio Fantasia has been dropped to the VFL after two goals in seven matches as a Blue.

Carlton has tried — with limited success — to plug the hole Papley would have filled for five years.

Tom Papley tackles Carlton’s Matthew Wright during a game in 2016. Picture: Michael Dodge/Getty Images

Tom Papley tackles Carlton’s Matthew Wright during a game in 2016. Picture: Michael Dodge/Getty Images

In that period, the best return from a Blues small forward has been 27 goals (Eddie Betts, 2021 and Matt Owies, 2023).

Papley averaged 34.5 goals a season from 2020-2023 and has 13 majors from nine games this year.

Papley was linked with a five-year deal worth between $600,000-$700,000 which would have put huge pressure on Carlton’s bulging salary cap.

The Blues landed Zac Williams as a free agent on big money and have since signed Harry McKay, Charlie Curnow, Sam Walsh and Patrick Cripps to long-term deals.

Matt Owies has been one of Carlton’s most consistent forwards since the failed Papley trade. Picture: Robert Cianflone/Getty Images

Matt Owies has been one of Carlton’s most consistent forwards since the failed Papley trade. Picture: Robert Cianflone/Getty Images

Perhaps the biggest fallout from Papley’s arrival would have been an even greater salary squeeze when Tom De Koning came out of contract.

While the Blues were able to secure their big four, rivals including Sydney and St Kilda made significant overtures to De Koning which would have blown Carlton’s offer out of the water.

Carlton also had cap space to bring Adam Cerra back to Victoria when he asked to be traded in 2021.

Jacob Weitering is the next Blues star to come out of contract at the end of next year.

Meanwhile, the Blues are being strongly linked with a play for free agent Will Hayward in their latest effort to solve their small forward issues.

THE DRAFT

Carlton took pick nine to the draft after the Daniher deal fell over and had been strongly linked to now-Fremantle midfielder Hayden Young.

The Dockers pounced on Young and Caleb Serong before the Blues’ selection, prompting Carlton to bid on Liam Henry and Tom Green.

Then list boss Stephen Silvagni eventually split the pick, taking Brodie Kemp (pick 17) and draft bolter Sam Philp (pick 20).

Each year since then — bar 2022 — the Blues have taken a small forward in either the national, rookie or pre-season drafts.

The Blues were linked with Hayden Young and bid on Liam Henry before they headed to Fremantle with Caleb Serong. Picture: AAP Image/Scott Barbour

The Blues were linked with Hayden Young and bid on Liam Henry before they headed to Fremantle with Caleb Serong. Picture: AAP Image/Scott Barbour

In 2019, it was Jack Martin and Josh Honey.

The following year, Corey Durdin joined.

Then it was Jesse Moltop.

And last year, Orazio Fantasia crossed as a delisted free agent.

Would the Blues have used pick 27 in 2021 on Motlop if their pursuit of Papley had been successful?

Mitch Owens (pick 33) and Jake Soligo (pick 36) were snapped up within 10 picks of Carlton calling Motlop’s name.

THE HYPOTHETICAL

Imagine McKay, Curnow and Papley terrorising defences in navy blue.

It’s enough to send a shiver down the spine of any opposition supporter.

Blues fans certainly must have been wondering as Papley ran amok at the SCG in round 11, 2021, kicking two last-quarter goals to help Sydney clinch a 22-point victory.

The navy blue diehards can only wonder what might have been with Papley at the feet of the most-dominant forward duo of the past three seasons.
His presence might not have been enough to save David Teague’s job, but there’s no doubt Papley’s quality would have helped put the finishing touches on Carlton’s long rebuild.

The Blues certainly wouldn’t be chasing Hayward had their interest in Papley come to fruition.

Maybe this off-season will deliver the elite small forward Carlton fans have been craving since Essendon kiboshed a deal which would have dramatically shaped the future of Carlton, Sydney and the Bombers.

Would Carlton be better or worse off now if Tom Papley had joined in 2019?

Better

85 %

Worse

15%

It’s FFARK CARLTON Friday

FARK CARLTON

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Another loss for the Scum and more injuries…please and thank you. Fark Carlton!

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