I think the root cause is rather obvious.
Chris Judd is football director. Long may they be terrible so that they eventually turn on him.
Fark Carlton and Fark Judd
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SOS v Caro was good watching. Had a swing at Lloyd too.
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Clearly Judd has spent some one on one time with Jed Lamb teaching him the finer points of eye gouging.
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I look Brisbane as a club that have had the similarly arduous task at getting their club off the mat as Carlton and wonder how Carlton could be so far behind them. It’s okay for Silvagni to say we’re doing this and that, but when a club has been on a similar path to them is so far ahead, you know they’ve ■■■■■■ it up.
Just read the interview, man did SOS belt Cara big time. Called her a liar and a rumour monger to her face and she sat there and took it. She is a filthy liar of a journalist who parades rumours and innuendo as fact and that she is on the inside with all this. Can’t wait to see what article she comes up with next, she might want to tread carefully because he sounded peeved enough to maybe go after her more.
Yep, she wanted to say he has too much power but he shut that down so then she said he should say more publicly so he demanded she provide evidence of other list managers making comments about coaches and co, she offered one lame offering of Richmond but backed right down.
I am not a fan of SOS but I have to admit, I really liked this interview.
Sick of the media writing opinion pieces and making them sound like fact and getting away with it.
On top of all that: Fark Carlton
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Typical journo/political crap though, she just basically ignored whatever he said and changed her question. It’s a talk show, if you’re going to have a guest you should have a conversation with them.
I find it staggering that she’s still employed really, how can anyone actually enjoy watching her or listening to her opinions?
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Frk Crltn.
Srry, n vwls vlbl
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But the opportunity to watch her argue with someone from the Old *arks seems to get everyone interested.
Fark Carlton supporter at work already trying to tell me possible scenarios when they get pick 2 as a priority pick
Tried explaining to him that if they get the pick, it will be end of 1st round
He then proceeded to tell me possible scenarios when they get pick 2 as a priority pick
Seriously Fark this club
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They are happy to say everything and everyone is up for trade.
Give us Cripps for our first rounder.
Just saw SOS’s let rip at Cawo.
Good on him. Need more like SOS stand up to the media.
That was a great interview.
But Fark Carlton. The interesting part for me was that she was accusing SOS of having too much power at the club while a board member was sitting next to her. I wonder what the relationship is like between Judd and SOS? Is Judd feeding her info?
and the stuff with Lloyd at the end was pretty tense. Clearly no love lost there
Fark Carlton, they shafted Ratten and deserve to be where they are.
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Get him outta there! Going to cut career short.
Will not play anywhere near that amount with help from Hep, Lang & Stringer!
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Make. North. Blush.
MEGADEAL.
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i have it on very good authority that North will be offering him $600 billion dollars over 10 years.
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And still he will knock them back.
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They will pay him $600 billion dollars over 10 years to train and play for Essendon.
dog face and Carlton at odds at each other. this is great. they deserve each other.
‘Brand new’ Blues struggling to stake their claim
By Caroline Wilson
20 July 2018 — 3:50pm
Stephen Silvagni.
Stephen Silvagni.
Photo: Chris Hopkins
Stephen Silvagni ground axes and settled scores on Channel Nine’s Footy Classified this week but one of his more intriguing statements once the dust settled was that Carlton essentially was a brand new football club.
Despite having been empowered to manoeuvre the Blues’ first-ever rebuild and one of the most radical in AFL history, Silvagni played down his influence at Princes Park, strongly defended his player trades and draft choices and angrily denied any involvement in the clumsy removal of former CEO Steven Trigg.
Despite his strong performance these are bleak times for the once proud Carlton Football Club. It is incredible really that Silvagni compared the struggles of his young list to the trials of the early Greater Western Sydney years when you consider the Blues’ strong history, 16 premierships, prime position in football’s heartland and this week’s assertion by embattled president Mark LoGiudice that the club boasts the biggest corporate network in the AFL.
And if you accept that Carlton is essentially a new football club then it is difficult to grasp at this woeful embryonic stage exactly what it stands for. To be truthful Greater Western Sydney has a more
definitive brand as a football team - even without the supporters - than Carlton has a club as it struggles to stake its claim in this new AFL landscape.
The handling of the priority pick question is one example. Initially the Blues bosses stated that despite their woes they would not request a priority draft choice from the commission reasoning that they had been the architects of their own downfall. They also reasoned that it would be difficult to trade in free agents on the one hand while putting their hand out admitting the depth of their plight in the other.
This announcement was widely criticised. Then football director Chris Judd indicated they could not and would not knock back an extra draft pick if the commission offered them one. Then the AFL responded that they would not get one without asking, and now Carlton appears to have softened its stance all together suggesting things could change pick-wise depending on circumstances.
Admitting the club botched the set-up of their AFLW team - in fairness they weren’t the only club to do so - Carlton in recent months have gone back to the drawing board after two seasons and restructured. The Blues have worked hard to present themselves as a reconstructed football club offering equal opportunity and the appointment of human rights commissioner Kate Jenkins to the board was an early coup for LoGiudice.
Carlton president Mark LoGiudice.
Carlton president Mark LoGiudice.
Photo: AAP
Which only made the club’s refusal to take a position on marriage equality - a fence sitting statement it announced on a press release on the day the AFL emblazoned a YES sign from its headquarters - more baffling. Particularly since their star footballer Darcy Vescio was simultaneously posing in front of the YES sign.
Jenkins has told friends her realisation that her public role could collide with her football directorship led to her reluctant decision this week to quit the board. Intriguingly, the Egon Zehnder recruiter David Campbell, who influenced Cain Liddle’s appointment to the top job over LoGiudice’s initial preference Simon Lethlean, and who is now leading the search for a new head of football, has also stepped inside the tent.
The new football boss will clearly assume the burden of making a call on coach Bolton next season - a call which will inevitably come if the results don’t and Silvagni indicated on Monday night that 2020 could be the year the club sees genuine improvement. But Carlton will not tolerate results like this for that long.
Whether or not you buy the mantra that this year was always going to be the toughest - a line not heard until very recently - or the injuries alibi or whether or not you believe that Silvagni’s policy cut too deep and has placed an unwanted toll on young star Patrick Cripps; no club can allow successive seasons like this one without clear strategic change and that is unlikely to be in the realm of list management.
How it has all come to this has been documented too many times by so many columnists. Interestingly Carlton supporters and the wider football community was reminded last weekend of the draft failures from 2007 through 2014 in a series of embarrassing statistics but far worse mistakes have been made over the decades.
The eight years of poor player choices before Silvagni and Co. did the rounds after Bolton’s Blues wearing nondescript pale grey jumpers were thrashed by St Kilda on its most recent Friday night shocker registering poor ratings for the free-to-air broadcaster.
If you accept that Carlton is essentially a new football club then it is difficult to grasp at this woeful embryonic stage exactly what it stands for.
The AFL now admits it got Carlton’s fixture horribly wrong. Despite being bullish that the club would improve this season, league chiefs have never really explained why the Blues were thrust into prime time after trading Bryce Gibbs. While Gillon McLachlan has indicated he will stick with Richmond-Carlton as the season opener he has made it equally clear that will be the extent of it. Carlton have damaged the game’s brand.
LoGiudice finally faced up to some media scrutiny this week with a series of strategically placed interviews in which he denied the Blues were at their lowest point but in the same breath agreed that results couldn’t get any worse.
Although he has never adequately publicly addressed his clumsy handling of Trigg’s sacking the president did not deny his human resources bungling in having given Lethlean every indication that the Carlton CEO’s job was his.
The AFL’s role in the above remains intriguing. Having recommended Trigg initially McLachlan is now trying to find a new role for the former Adelaide and Carlton chief but once Carlton removed him the league CEO strongly pushed Lethlean to replace him.
Liddle was appointed instead when Jenkins, Judd and Campbell deemed him the better candidate and one whose skill set matched the Blues weaknesses notably in membership and commercial support. But Liddle has the task ahead of him just as Silvagni has in filling the
23 through 28-year-old void.
LoGiudice pointed to Carlton’s 55,000 or so members as an historic best but just how dramatically the Blues have fallen behind the other traditional Melbourne clubs is alarming. Essendon have not exactly set the football scene alight this season and the drugs scandal set the club back years and yet the Bombers for one will finish 2018 with close to 80,000 members.
That Bolton has been the unfortunate and at times unconvincing front man for much of the season until this past week has not helped a sorry situation. There has never been any doubt that Bolton would coach the Blues into a fourth season and yet at some point his performance must be critically assessed.
Season 2018 has been an unmitigated debacle and injuries are not the only reason. Carlton might be a new football club but neither the reconstructed nor the old version of Carlton could tolerate for much longer the lack of second half efforts that have too often punctuated this year. Equally the new regime after three drafts and trade periods and heading into a fourth must stop blaming the past.
LoGiudice’s assertion that the culture and commitment of the playing group was a testament to Bolton’s attitude and competence was clearly not referring to the on-field commitment.
Just what the president meant by culture was never clarified. Carlton’s culture is as difficult to grasp right now as its brand. But as Silvagni said on Monday night culture can be elusive. It can be gone he said in 24 hours. Developing it can take significantly longer.