Father Son Watch (2017 onwards)

plus Fark Carlton have dean this year too.

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Oh that’s shameful of me

…farkCarlton

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The “advantage” is quite simply the first right of refusal.

Forgetting the points value for now… if he’s bid on at a pick we don’t have, we still have the option of taking him. An option that you don’t have (guaranteed) for any one else.
While the value of that bid is set, the “cost” to get to that value is not but that cost is likely to still be less than where the player is valued. I.e. it likely costs less to get pick 10 & pick 16 than it does to get pick 5.

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Any team trying to get a 1st round pick to match a top 5 pick will get screwed over a barrel to get that pick.

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There is a disadvantage in that I’m sure clubs will feel obliged to pick sons where they are rated even if it’s not a position of need.

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if I may, we’re likely in a really precarious position with potential multiple club tied talents making it seriously difficult to match.

If it were one, sure, trade potentially a top 4 pick for two that go close to matching the Koby bid. but trying to do that agin for Tevita and then Moustafa means we probably need to prioritise two of the three and even then may prove difficult.

I think I understand what you are saying in that drafting Bewick will be no different to matching it with picks, I just cant explain it right now.

removing the discount means club tied players will be bid on at the appropriate draft range.

Historically most club tied NGA’s and early father/sons are bid on later. sans Jamara and yeah, evidence is clear

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if I were Matt Rosa, I would be building into that draft. Try and trade the 2025 draft picks into bonus picks in 2027. picking up firsts in 2026 along the way.

Obviously difficult with Tassie having multitude of picks inserted (12th place usually has pick 8 but may end up 14 or whatever due to Tassie picks for example.. I know, numbers may be different but point remains)

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You’ll have a heap of father sons and nga’s passed over by this new rule, which is probably a good thing for the integrity of the draft. If a club stockpiles top picks, their player is bid on and a more talented player is still available, the club should take the more talented player and let their academy player slide.

We don’t need to spend two first rounders on him if we finish low on the ladder. We would just need to pick him with our draft pick or have a second pick that would allow us to have sufficient points to match.

The whole 2 pick requirement is a furphy because it’s ignoring where your actual draft pick lands.

Thinking about it. If anything this still advantages sides finishing higher on the ladder.

If you have a pick in the top 5, from ladder position, you’re presented with having to trade back to ensure you have two picks to get your F/A or NGA as theyre more likely to be bid on post you pick. Versus, finishing higher up the ladder and needing to only trade in 1 pick to potentially reach as far as the top 5.

2026 isn’t impacted. All of their concessions impact the 2027 and later drafts.

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There is no scenario where you would need pick 2 and 12 to match a bid unless they completely change everything which even then would be ridiculous. If you have pick 2 we are going to be able to match a bid at pick 1.

Under this year’s draft points to match pick 1 with pick 2 you would need an extra 220 points (using a 10% discount) which is pick 41. Even if the discount was completely removed it would be picks 2 and 27 to match.

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Between TDK compo, Silvagni compo, and their remaining 2025 and 2026 picks they’ll be fine to match both and Ison. With some judicious trading.

pretty sure they can pre list 17 year olds

They can

They can do that in 2026, but it doesn’t impact the 2026 draft as the 17yos are too young to be drafted in 2026.

So it is taking kids out of the 2027 draft class in advance.

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Kids who would be eligible for the 2027 and 2028 drafts.

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Why are we required to trade for a pick to match Bewick? We are likely to have a pick that will land in the range close to where he is picked. Therefore we can 1. Use this pick to select Bewick or 2. Trade it for points to use to match the bid on Bewick

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Because it is better to take 2 players in the range that Bewick will be available, rather than just Bewick.

If you have a pick before he is bid, you want to pick someone else.