Moving Stringer on isn’t about getting better in 2025, it’s to improve years down the track. If Jake didn’t play vs Freo we’d have pick 5 and Carlton don’t play finals. (Result)
Avoiding the bottom 4 is hurting us, teams in contention are willing to over pay for these picks, if we don’t want a player at 4 we’ll have the option to trade it for 3 picks inside 20, that’s how we can improve.
Getting pick 10-12 every year doesn’t do anything unless you get lucky and a player falls in your lap. (Hopefully Caddy)
Completely this.
Judge how bad our list is in your head and double it.
And double it again.
This list is nowhere near competing and requires serious movement to get a core group coming through together for success in five years minimum. Anyone you dont think will be part of it should be making other plans.
They all cant go at once but the door should be open for them if they can find an option.
This shittruck has to be ripped back to the chassis.
It’s not like we’ll be playing 1 man down.
The ball then gets directed equally amongst other avenues.
Our forwards and resting mids will get more opportunities and inevitably kick more goals.
We probably won’t make up the 42 goals, though we may be able to save some the other way by introducing more ground level pressure.
I’ve been concerned from earlier this season with how many good games Jake has left.
I’d be surprised if it’s more than 10.
My opinion is it would be better if we re-jig our forwardline, despite Jakes best form being undeniably good.
So if he kicked 42 and missed 20, he has a conversion rate of over 67% and any forward would take that rate any day of the week. What is the problem is his missing some easy, straight forward, clutch goals. Every forward is guilty of that as well.
This question reminds me of when Fevola left Carlton and went to Brisbane after he kicked 60-70 goals that year, i remember the media jumping on the band wagon of how many goals will Browny and Fev kick each? 80, What they failed to realise, is for them to both kick 80, the ball would have to enter the forward line twice as often as it had that year. Which was nigh impossible and never going to happen. All Fev was going to do was take goals off Browny and the midfielders.
And that is pretty much what happened when he actually played. The experiment didnt last all that long due to spme off field antics.
I don’t reckon moving him on alone will have us finish bottom 4. You just end up losing a decent player for a crap pick and end up playing Shiel and a permanent forward and finishing more or less in the same spot.
I guess if it doesn’t make any difference whether he stays or goes, I’d say take the crap pick and see if you can find someone who does make a difference.
Get rid of both. We might actually improve. My point is go forward with less exposed kids who can go either way. We know what Jake and Shiel will bring, we know it has a ceiling.
We need to get comfortable being uncomfortable, right now we’re very safe.
Stringer isn’t pretending the deal means nothing. If the club decided to let him have the call on a trigger year (subject to meeting certain requirements which he met) then he is free to look elsewhere as well, which means EFC also have to consider a better offer to him.
Put Jake in a functioning forward line and he’d be worth a lot more than 400k.
If he was at Geelong with genuine classy small forwards like Stengle, Miers and Close, with Cameron, he’d be a superstar of the comp.
The 2 years prior, Fev kicked
99 goals from 22 games in 08 with a goal average of 4.6.
89 goals from 23 games in 09 with a goal average of 3.9.
And in 2010 his first year at the lions, he kicked 48 goals from 17 games, averaging 2.8 goals.
Brown, on the other hand, Kicked
70 goals in 08 in 21 games, with a goal average of 3.3 goals.
85 goals in 09 in 24 games, with a goal average of 3.5 goals.
53 goals in 2010 in 16 games, with a goal average 3.3 goals.
Browns form didn’t change much. On the other hand, Fevs’ goal average dropped off by almost half.
Now, back to my original post, where i said it didn’t work. This pretty much sums up what i was getting at.
The reporting at the time was that Fev was going to kick 90, and Brown was still going to be kicking his bags of 70 and 80s, which with the same (average) amount of entries, was never going to happen.
As i said before for this to happen the team would have had to double the entries into the forward line for this to be remotely possible.