Former #8 Ben Hobbs

Again, nobody is arguing that Hobbs or Tsatas are complete players. But getting the ball from the tap is what they do.
We don’t have the players that do that right now, and it was bad enough when we had had a competent tap-ruckman. Now that we don’t, it makes the need even greater.

I find it all extremely weird. Nobody expected Hocking or Liberatore to be great overhead marks or speedsters. They do what they do and it’s valuable.

And again, we’re 18th partially because teams will often just destroy us out of the centre and overwhelm the backline.

You don’t want a team of them, but you do want One. We don’t have one that we’re playing.
We haven’t developed the two top ten picks we drafted.

When you draft two of the best kids in the country, I’m talking probably top three for their role, and you burn them Both…
That’s not on the players and it’s not a coincidence.

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He who should not be named.

HWSNBN.

100% with you

It’s absolutely disgusting how much talent Brad squandered, or at the very least under developed massively

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I still recon Hobbs is an Afl quality player.

His problem is that hes a one dimensional mid.

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dunno about that

you can’t really coach awareness, and he had absolutely 0 of it around the contest

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I don’t agree,

Recon he just didn’t like to panic handball like all of our senior players do.

Think with a bit more exposure in the middle it wouldn’t have been an issue.

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if you’re getting caught because you didn’t want to panic handball I don’t really think that’s better

regardless we probably won’t ever know, he won’t get back on a list

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Yeah agree to disagree! :slight_smile:

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I’d love to see actual numbers for Hobbs getting caught with the ball.

Always felt it was a little overblown.
Not that it really matters anymore

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He used to lose his feet a lot. I’m sure coaches told him that was bad.

From players on the list in 2022, I think the only improvers have been Durham, Caldwell (until this year), Draper, Voss and Mass.

Pretty sure someone pulled up the stats in this thread and they didn’t substantiate the claim.

Was always a fan of the way Hobbs went about it. Tough and honest player.
For mine, he never just never improved from his first year - a sentence that can be applied to many Essendon ‘might be good’ types.

Reality is he couldn’t kick or run well enough for the modern game. No other club picked him up when he got delisted.

Well done to him for having a massive impact at the VFL level.

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That was me.

He gave away less free kicks per game than the average afl player.
Definitely did get caught too much but it was massively overblown on here, as things tend to be.

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WSPHU

You can argue he wasn’t developed properly and didn’t get a fair crack at it and arguably you’d be right but 17 other teams had the opportunity to pick him up as a delisted free agent for nothing and no club did.

Says a fair bit I reckon

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f me dead
couldnt crack the essendon midfield
not the geelong, sydney, brisbane midfield.
esssssssssserdon.

he just didnt show anything to the level where you’d unseat merrett and a then decent caldwell.
i dont reckon his contested work was that good. A bit slow, got caught by hand and foot.

Glad he’s happy at Port. id much rather see the fringe mids from successful clubs.

We never really gave him midfield opportunity and his development, like others, was poor. That said, he didn’t/doesn’t have any weapons for the modern game so the right call was made to delist him imo.

Both things can be true.

If you’re gonna be small you need elite pace, and if you’re gonna be in the midfield regulary you need to be a good kick. Sadly, he was neither but I always liked him and he cracked in harder than most. His decision making was also a split second slow for AFL level.

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