It is certainly catchy.Lol. This is not the actual inquest tripper, it's a footy forum.I tell you what… Give me a reason other than ‘lefties are going after him’ as to why you’re sticking up for him, and I’ll engage with you further.
I’m one of these rare people these days who waits for actual evidence before rushing into judgment on someone else.
And nor do I base my judgements on a catchy song or a big headline.
Lol. This is not the actual inquest tripper, it's a footy forum.I tell you what… Give me a reason other than ‘lefties are going after him’ as to why you’re sticking up for him, and I’ll engage with you further.
I’m one of these rare people these days who waits for actual evidence before rushing into judgment on someone else.
And nor do I base my judgements on a catchy song or a big headline.
So you don’t actually know anything about him, or know of any reason why he is being unfairly maligned, or have any personal insight into his situation.
You’re arguing here… Just because?
Err no - as stated many times I am defending him because despite numerous inquisitions and innuendo there has never been any tangible evidence presented that would make him guilty of anything.
And again bear in mind that his main accuser in this particular instance is a convicted child sex offender (despite SMJ’s clear ignorance of this) whose evidence has been discredited in the past.
Why people choose to believe the latter over the former says more about them then Pell.
Lol. This is not the actual inquest tripper, it's a footy forum.I tell you what… Give me a reason other than ‘lefties are going after him’ as to why you’re sticking up for him, and I’ll engage with you further.
I’m one of these rare people these days who waits for actual evidence before rushing into judgment on someone else.
And nor do I base my judgements on a catchy song or a big headline.
Right wing, left wing, Catholic or not, church or not, it doesn’t friggen matter, we’re talking about the molesting of innocent kids here, by an institution that squarely more than any other, is supposed to be about protecting & advocating for the innocent.
If he turned a blind eye at any point at any level, even once, he’s a fking criminal, & should be prosecuted & jailed, and I believe he is as guilty as sin, of deliberately doing so regularly, in his capacity as head of it, as a matter of course, to “Protect” the church instead.
Suffer the little children in fking deed, it was supposed to be a call to arms to protect them, not a credo, or raison d’etre!
lol Trip again asking for facts, he loves his facts, despite never providing them himself.
Cannot believe you guys keep falling for this troll and cannot believe he keeps being allowed to post. This board isn’t a democracy, ban the guy.
Pell was a junior priest at the time. 9 years younger than Ridsdale. a) Why would someone tell a junior priest who was ranked below Ridsdale at the time? b) what the hell could Pell do as an assistant priest anyway?Imagine turning this absolute disgraceful situation into another left v right debate?Holy hell.
He knew, he’s a scumbag (even without this) and the song is typically awesome from Minchin.
Oh FFS - how the hell would you know that ‘he knew’.
Stop showing your stupidity and ignorance.I’ll say it again.
I know he knew because a victim of Ridsdale told me he spoke to Pell.
I see no reason why he would make that up.
Not as if he didn’t have enough to deal with. The church were not model defendants.In any case, those claims have not been proven.
Pell was in the same boat as Paul Bongiorno at the time. I don’t see people basically calling him a pedophile.
Now I’m not saying your friend is deliberately making things up but this incident happened almost 50 years ago. I defy anyone to recall exactly what happened 50 years ago in a conversation.
What do you mean, “this incident”?
Sorry - I assumed you were talking about Ballarat.Ah.
No.
Right - then your friends timelines don’t really match up.I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.
Sorry.
Enlighten me then - what time frame are we talking about?
I’m not going into all the details of my friend’s case with you here. I feel quite uncomfortable sharing as much as I did, and I hope you understand that I’m not going to discuss it so you can try to shoot it down.
Let’s face it, on past experience the chances of you responding to anything I say with, “Oh, fair enough,” are precisely zero.
I am however intrigued despite myself regarding your last post.
Are you defending Pell there or Ridsdale as well? Because it kind of looks like…well, just Ridsdale, actually.
On a side note, cannot stand Tim Minchin and cannot stand people using music for political purposes (just my opinion). I hate preachy musicians, people like Bono and co.
But I do understand there is a place for them and many do like it.
On a side note, cannot stand Tim Minchin and cannot stand people using music for political purposes (just my opinion). I hate preachy musicians, people like Bono and co.But I do understand there is a place for them and many do like it.
Some of the songs have nice chords but the lyrics are dodgy?
On a side note, cannot stand Tim Minchin and cannot stand people using music for political purposes (just my opinion). I hate preachy musicians, people like Bono and co.But I do understand there is a place for them and many do like it.
Some of the songs have nice chords but the lyrics are dodgy?
Lyrics are fine, just don’t really like it much. It is like country music, it grates on me.
So … that’d be a big fat NO to Hillsong then??
On a side note, cannot stand Tim Minchin and cannot stand people using music for political purposes (just my opinion). I hate preachy musicians, people like Bono and co.But I do understand there is a place for them and many do like it.
Some of the songs have nice chords but the lyrics are dodgy?
I feel like a glass of white wine now. Pity it’s overcast.
So ... that'd be a big fat NO to Hillsong then??
I can’t stand Hillsong, horrible stuff
Hey Daytripper, do you have kids?
Not at all - the RC is operating as it should.
BF - nearly every person wanting to see Pell strung up hails from the Left.
Not surprising given their hate of Catholics and Jews that they have fixated on Pell.Pell is not refusing to be cross examined. Its 2016. We have a video-link.
IIRC, Billy boy was cross examined by video link at his appearance at the Union RC. Does this make him guilty?
I am not looking to have George Pell strung up, and you are wrong to think it is a conspiracy from the Left or the Right or anywhere in between. Many of my Comrades in the Socialist Left or Catholics or Jews. A social conscience has nothing to do with religion or race.
I know victims and know of Priests and Brothers who have been either convicted or moved away and never seen again. Getting closure on this is tough and having the truth confirmed is something that a Leader like Pell should be more than prepared to do. Ballarat in particular needs this episode to reach a conclusion.
And seriously given the proven history of the Catholic Church being complicit in hiding perpetrators, withholding evidence and denying all their obligations to victims, maybe you can get why so are a bit cynical at Pell’s illness.
Hey Daytripper, do you have kids?
lol you still trying to get an answer?
lol Trip again asking for facts, he loves his facts, despite never providing them himself.Cannot believe you guys keep falling for this troll and cannot believe he keeps being allowed to post. This board isn’t a democracy, ban the guy.
One day someone with the power will grow a pair and deal with this thing. Until then, just ignore the nasty flog.
Not at all - the RC is operating as it should.
BF - nearly every person wanting to see Pell strung up hails from the Left.
Not surprising given their hate of Catholics and Jews that they have fixated on Pell.Pell is not refusing to be cross examined. Its 2016. We have a video-link.
IIRC, Billy boy was cross examined by video link at his appearance at the Union RC. Does this make him guilty?
I am not looking to have George Pell strung up, and you are wrong to think it is a conspiracy from the Left or the Right or anywhere in between. Many of my Comrades in the Socialist Left or Catholics or Jews. A social conscience has nothing to do with religion or race.
I know victims and know of Priests and Brothers who have been either convicted or moved away and never seen again. Getting closure on this is tough and having the truth confirmed is something that a Leader like Pell should be more than prepared to do. Ballarat in particular needs this episode to reach a conclusion.
And seriously given the proven history of the Catholic Church being complicit in hiding perpetrators, withholding evidence and denying all their obligations to victims, maybe you can get why so are a bit cynical at Pell’s illness.
The new priest in Ballarat should receive a lot of praise. He is doing all he can to provide a way to get closure and compensation for the victims. He seems to be a good man.
Pell was a junior priest at the time. 9 years younger than Ridsdale. a) Why would someone tell a junior priest who was ranked below Ridsdale at the time? b) what the hell could Pell do as an assistant priest anyway?Imagine turning this absolute disgraceful situation into another left v right debate?Holy hell.
He knew, he’s a scumbag (even without this) and the song is typically awesome from Minchin.
Oh FFS - how the hell would you know that ‘he knew’.
Stop showing your stupidity and ignorance.I’ll say it again.
I know he knew because a victim of Ridsdale told me he spoke to Pell.
I see no reason why he would make that up.
Not as if he didn’t have enough to deal with. The church were not model defendants.In any case, those claims have not been proven.
Pell was in the same boat as Paul Bongiorno at the time. I don’t see people basically calling him a pedophile.
Now I’m not saying your friend is deliberately making things up but this incident happened almost 50 years ago. I defy anyone to recall exactly what happened 50 years ago in a conversation.
What do you mean, “this incident”?
Sorry - I assumed you were talking about Ballarat.Ah.
No.
Right - then your friends timelines don’t really match up.I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.
Sorry.
Enlighten me then - what time frame are we talking about?I’m not going into all the details of my friend’s case with you here. I feel quite uncomfortable sharing as much as I did, and I hope you understand that I’m not going to discuss it so you can try to shoot it down.
Let’s face it, on past experience the chances of you responding to anything I say with, “Oh, fair enough,” are precisely zero.I am however intrigued despite myself regarding your last post.
Are you defending Pell there or Ridsdale as well? Because it kind of looks like…well, just Ridsdale, actually.
Just asking for the time frame.
Not asking for any State secrets.
Only defending Pell.
There is a special place in hell for people like Ridsdale.
I understand the cynicism.Not at all - the RC is operating as it should.
BF - nearly every person wanting to see Pell strung up hails from the Left.
Not surprising given their hate of Catholics and Jews that they have fixated on Pell.Pell is not refusing to be cross examined. Its 2016. We have a video-link.
IIRC, Billy boy was cross examined by video link at his appearance at the Union RC. Does this make him guilty?
I am not looking to have George Pell strung up, and you are wrong to think it is a conspiracy from the Left or the Right or anywhere in between. Many of my Comrades in the Socialist Left or Catholics or Jews. A social conscience has nothing to do with religion or race.
I know victims and know of Priests and Brothers who have been either convicted or moved away and never seen again. Getting closure on this is tough and having the truth confirmed is something that a Leader like Pell should be more than prepared to do. Ballarat in particular needs this episode to reach a conclusion.
And seriously given the proven history of the Catholic Church being complicit in hiding perpetrators, withholding evidence and denying all their obligations to victims, maybe you can get why so are a bit cynical at Pell’s illness.
What I won’t cop is people basically presuming him guilty of heinous offences without knowing any detail whatsoever. Honestly half the halfwits who want Pell burned at the cross think he is also a pedophile without having the faintest idea of the circumstances or details.
Pell was a junior priest at the time. 9 years younger than Ridsdale. a) Why would someone tell a junior priest who was ranked below Ridsdale at the time? b) what the hell could Pell do as an assistant priest anyway?Imagine turning this absolute disgraceful situation into another left v right debate?Holy hell.
He knew, he’s a scumbag (even without this) and the song is typically awesome from Minchin.
Oh FFS - how the hell would you know that ‘he knew’.
Stop showing your stupidity and ignorance.I’ll say it again.
I know he knew because a victim of Ridsdale told me he spoke to Pell.
I see no reason why he would make that up.
Not as if he didn’t have enough to deal with. The church were not model defendants.In any case, those claims have not been proven.
Pell was in the same boat as Paul Bongiorno at the time. I don’t see people basically calling him a pedophile.
Now I’m not saying your friend is deliberately making things up but this incident happened almost 50 years ago. I defy anyone to recall exactly what happened 50 years ago in a conversation.
What do you mean, “this incident”?
Sorry - I assumed you were talking about Ballarat.Ah.
No.
Right - then your friends timelines don’t really match up.I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.
Sorry.
Enlighten me then - what time frame are we talking about?I’m not going into all the details of my friend’s case with you here. I feel quite uncomfortable sharing as much as I did, and I hope you understand that I’m not going to discuss it so you can try to shoot it down.
Let’s face it, on past experience the chances of you responding to anything I say with, “Oh, fair enough,” are precisely zero.I am however intrigued despite myself regarding your last post.
Are you defending Pell there or Ridsdale as well? Because it kind of looks like…well, just Ridsdale, actually.Just asking for the time frame.
Not asking for any State secrets.Only defending Pell.
There is a special place in hell for people like Ridsdale.
He told me around 1988-89.
While I don’t know exactly when the abuse happened, I believe it was between '80 and '83.
I don’t really care where that fits in your timeline. The church obviously thought it fit.
They paid him. Eventually.
Ridsdale was in Sydney during the 80s.
Pell was an ordinary parish priest in Victoria up until 1987 after which he became a ‘trainee’ bishop in 1987 (based in Melbourne again).
So the idea that your friend told Pell about Ridsdale doesn’t really make much sense. either from a logistical perspective or from a why perspective.
ie, why would someone tell a parish priest in Victoria about the goings on of a priest in Sydney?