Perhaps they will find him a nice quiet little archdiocese in Nigeria.
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Your second paragraph is correct re Mulkearns.
Pell wasn’t senior enough to have any authority to move anyone anywhere during Mortlake period. He was a parish priest in Ballarat at the time.
My uncle was a senior priest at St Patrick’s Cathedral in Melbourne during the 70s and 80s, but never seemed to be involved in that level of decision-making. He didn’t see eye-to-eye with Archbishop Little and was moved aside from any decision making. I think he regarded the Archbishop as being quite weak and in the thrall of the Young Turks advisers.
He died more than 20 years ago, as the furore was starting to hit, after being ill for 5 years or so. The only thing I recall him saying on the subject was regarding a Christian Brother who was charged in the early 90s…Brother Dowlan (or something similar), and he said he always thought there was something ‘off’ about him, but didn’t know what it was.
I’d be very happy to defend my uncle’s reputation, but certainly not that of others involved. I seem to have inherited a number of personality facets from his, not least of those being a complete intolerance of charlatans and fools.
For the record, I became a Retired Catholic (like most RC’s) more than 40 years ago and now fill in the census as No Religion.
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It’s the saga all over again!
No doubt all very true and very damning, but it doesn’t mean that he personally fiddled with any kiddies. Which is apparently what he’s to be charged with.
Did they have a police station in Ballarat at the time?
Telephones?
Telegram?
Was paedophilia a crime then?
Was raping children morally acceptable at the time?
Just trying to get some context.
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George the bean counter at the Vatican said this;
“the suffering, of course, was real, and I very much regret that, but I had no reason to turn my mind to the extent of the evils”
“It’s a sad story and it wasn’t of much interest to me.”
“It could have been the man was perpetually restless,”
“I’m not sure at that stage there was even a civic responsibility to report such a crime.”
But George also finds child abuse “abhorrent” - so abhorrent that it’s not much interest to him as a ■■■■■■■ priest.- what a ■■■■■■■ lying cant.
The problem with most crooks in the long run is that the trail they’re trying to cover leads to their ultimate demise.
Not sure about that.
Things are different under Pope Francis. I think he will not shelter potential criminals but will allow due process of law.
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I am pretty sure Pell was sick at some pretty opportune moments when that royal commission was going on here.
Yep, . Papa Frank “Gave him Leave” to return, and announced it immediately.
Almost saying “Be sure you Leave” for mine.
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That combined with the Melbourne Archbishop’s comments make you think they’re not holding their breath on his imminent return.
Whatever Pell’s influence earlier, he sat on a Committee that shuffled priests from parish to parish and did not seek to implement any steps that could provide a measure of protection for children in the future, such as putting in place a system requiring that a priest could not be left alone with children.
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Except when he went to school there.
Maybe you’re not gullible.
I just wonder if Pell actually believes in God. If he does then wtf does he think the consequences will be in the next life.
Don’t know anything about the charges against cardinal Pell. But I find it kind of humorous that the catholic Church is described as anything other than socialist and left leaning.
A staunch Catholic literally defined the average Labor voter. Or at least used too.
Perhaps before the feminist movement jumped in.
I hope he’s innocent. Because it’d probably be a really sad day for those people that believe in what the Catholic Church stands for otherwise.
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The right wing DLP Catholic vote kept the left leaning Labor Party out of power for nearly three decades after the Split. The Vatican intervened to stop the Victorian Archbishop and Bishops from acting as part of a political party through the Santamaria National Civiic Council. “Crusade or Conspiracy” provides the history.
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, I’ll rephrase that. Pell and by further extension the current Pope Francis are much more socialist/left leaning than I think this conversation gives credit too.
It would suprise me if Pell took a right wing conservative view in politics.
Perhaps going after Pell might be the answer, but I doubt it. His record publicly certainly doesn’t line up with the accusations in here.
Surely you jest Vanders ?
Re-read Pells direct quotes and it gives you a measure of the bloke. I am convinced he is guilty of touching up little boys, but even if that is not proven, his cover-up of Risdale and others, and his aggrogant neglect of victims condemns him to hell.
And as for him being a Leftie, again read his history, never had a left thought in his twisted brain, and look who his best mates are
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Frank might be left but Pell is very much right.
Whether he is guilty of these current charges is anyone’s guess however, he is most definitely guilty of cover-ups, that is blatantly obvious.
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