Heath Hocking Surgery

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can't even remember what the injury was. I'm sure i saw footage of him being involved in the media pentathlon yesterday though.

Essendon Football Club, setting the injury management bar higher than anyone since 2005

Club website said “sore groins”. That could be a multitude of issues. Said he played sore most of last season, so perhaps not terribly serious?

Club website needs to realise that we all only have one groin.

I think you could refer to both the abductor and adductor tendons, on each side, as your groins.


Two tendons, one groin.
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Dunno if that can be relieved by surgery - [b]I think the only remedy for OP is rest.[/b]
Not technically true, they'll run through the conservative gauntlet of treatments for it first, but if that fails the player will typically be booked in for an adductor tendon release.
I daresay that explains why he's only been booked in recently, made him rest first off, come back gently, and it was still bung.

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can't even remember what the injury was. I'm sure i saw footage of him being involved in the media pentathlon yesterday though.

Essendon Football Club, setting the injury management bar higher than anyone since 2005

Club website said “sore groins”. That could be a multitude of issues. Said he played sore most of last season, so perhaps not terribly serious?

Club website needs to realise that we all only have one groin.

I think you could refer to both the abductor and adductor tendons, on each side, as your groins.


Two tendons, one groin.
Wow, out-pedanted AN10...

Obviously being used in the general sense. Tendons in the groin area.

Second time he has had groin surgery, hopefully faster than the 12 month recovery last time!

So playing Heath Hocking and Brett Stanton injured, is better than letting them recuperate and playing someone else ?

I will never get that. Doesn’t say much for your depth, if injured players are seen to be better performing than the next best.

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So playing Heath Hocking and Brett Stanton injured, is better than letting them recuperate and playing someone else ?

I will never get that. Doesn’t say much for your depth, if injured players are seen to be better performing than the next best.


Not to mention Goddard (groin), Watson (hammie), Hepp (hand), Hibberd (hammie), Carlisle (various), Daniher (clavicle), Fletch (back), etc etc etc

Really we should’ve rested all of them and played Crowie and the VFL list.

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So playing Heath Hocking and Brett Stanton injured, is better than letting them recuperate and playing someone else ?

I will never get that. Doesn’t say much for your depth, if injured players are seen to be better performing than the next best.


Not to mention Goddard (groin), Watson (hammie), Hepp (hand), Hibberd (hammie), Carlisle (various), Daniher (clavicle), Fletch (back), etc etc etc

Really we should’ve rested all of them and played Crowie and the VFL list.

This is a very good point

Anyone know of treatment for achillies tendonitis?

I have lower tendonitis but not burrs in my ankles which is a good thing. Just shock loading through running.

I’ve had injections, also used the pads through electric impulse applying cortisone.

Neither have worked I don’t really want surgery but anyone who has had and been cured I would appreciate some advice??

SiL had the PRP injections which, along with two weeks mandatory rest, cured hers.

I had a dose for ~12 months which exercises and a change of running shoe eventually cured.

If it is std AT (ie. mid tendon) progressive loading (daily slow controlled heel drops off a step) exercises usually help over an extended period of months. If it is insertional AT (ie. near the heel bone) loading exercises will only make it worse.

Generally with AT some, but not excessive, load through the tendon is good in terms of the heeling process. Complete rest often results in it getting worse.

What shoes are you running in? AT is a classic symptom of over-pronation. You may need a more supportive shoe with a firm-ish heel. Also steer clear of minimalist shoes if you want to avoid calf, plantar fascia and AT troubles.

Good luck with it.

One more thing, Damnation: have you tried acupuncture and moxibustion along with some of what you are already doing.

Good point (see what I did there?!) MDSO. There’s theory that acupuncture can be just as effective as the injections - that the act of penetration in the tendon sets-off the repair mechanism in both treatments.

If your are near a beach walking in soft sand does wonders, after the pain subsides do your running in the sand. Your feet, ankles, tendons and knees will be very happy.

Needed new shoes for stability arch support - podarist recommended new balance 860. Solved the problem

Thanks DFE and MDSO

I do over pronate, my pain is isolated to the back of the tendon about 2 inches above ball of my foot. If I squeeze the tendon it’s painful. In the morning I especially find it difficult to walk as it is very stiff and low ache. Eventually it loosens up but not completely. Mine is definitely AT.

I’ll have a chat to my specialist, and suggest acupuncture and moxibustion to him.

Thanks once again.

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Needed new shoes for stability arch support - podarist recommended new balance 860. Solved the problem

Yes my said the same about runners aswell, I got the Mizuno runners…good arch support which assists with my over pronation.

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Thanks DFE and MDSO

I do over pronate, my pain is isolated to the back of the tendon about 2 inches above ball of my foot. If I squeeze the tendon it’s painful. In the morning I especially find it difficult to walk as it is very stiff and low ache. Eventually it loosens up but not completely. Mine is definitely AT.

I’ll have a chat to my specialist, and suggest acupuncture and moxibustion to him.

Thanks once again.

Sounds more like plantar fasciitis symptoms that I had. But I’m no doctor.

Damnation that basically was my problem area. Calf stretch on steps 3 sets x 10 full range plus another simple stretch I cannot describe ( can diagram if you want). Eased the pain - new runners have prevented it from returning

It does “sound like” plantar fasciitis. Typically, very difficult to weight bear after a sleep, but only takes a few minutes to warm up and fel ok.

Robert Harvey had a solution for plantar fasciitis. Jump from a table and release the scar tissue…OUCH!

Non surgical, non invasive treatment for tendonitis: Rest. ? moonboot. Anti inflammatories.

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It does "sound like" plantar fasciitis. Typically, very difficult to weight bear after a sleep, but only takes a few minutes to warm up and fel ok.

Robert Harvey had a solution for plantar fasciitis. Jump from a table and release the scar tissue…OUCH!

Non surgical, non invasive treatment for tendonitis: Rest. ? moonboot. Anti inflammatories.

I thought plantar fasciitis was more toward the bottom of the foot are and achillies tendonitis was at the back of the heel?

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......my pain is isolated to the back of the tendon about 2 inches above ball of my foot..

I assume you mean 2 inches above the heel bone?

2 inches from the ball of your foot would be the plantar fascia.

Mizunos cured my AT too. Firm heel cushion and medial stability in rear of the heel is their secret recipe, IMO. Either Inspire, Nirvana or Paradox would fit the bill. Inspire for medium levels of stability, Nirvana and Paradox for maximum stability.