Dank’s new book, now that would be interesting.
I guess he will call it…
“Dank around the edges”
Weapons new book will be called…
“How to bludgeon your employer(s) and get $1m+ payout”
Vlads new book will be called…
“Bullying your employees part 1”…
Part 2 not yet named, but early indication are it will be called “Talk to the hand”
McDivetts new book will be called…
“Bluff 1.01. How to survive a difficult situation by maintaining a pretence”
It'll be better than James' book. That was a bit average.Deliberately stirring the pot here, but in that book doesn’t he say he’ll never coach?
If it’s the one I’ve got “Reading the Play” (?) - I think he’s non committal. Sheeds gives him an endorsement, but I don’t think Hird says one way or the other.
I went looking for that at one point, because I had the same thought.
It'll be better than James' book. That was a bit average.Deliberately stirring the pot here, but in that book doesn’t he say he’ll never coach?
If it’s the one I’ve got “Reading the Play” (?) - I think he’s non committal. Sheeds gives him an endorsement, but I don’t think Hird says one way or the other.
I went looking for that at one point, because I had the same thought.
I seem to recall Dingus taking issue with it, pre-Saga.
It'll be better than James' book. That was a bit average.Deliberately stirring the pot here, but in that book doesn’t he say he’ll never coach?
If it’s the one I’ve got “Reading the Play” (?) - I think he’s non committal. Sheeds gives him an endorsement, but I don’t think Hird says one way or the other.
I went looking for that at one point, because I had the same thought.
I seem to recall Dingus taking issue with it, pre-Saga.
Research for this afternoon I guess…
Weapons new book will be called....“How to bludgeon your employer(s) and get $1m+ payout”
How about this for Hirdy’s tell all; “How to attract charlatans”
Where the hell is Dingus!?!?
So, the two positions for voting at the AGM are Little and Jackson.So there will be 5 freshly elected directors after the next AGM, and those leaving have high level skills and experience. I like Paul Littles succession planning with Lindsay Tanner and Chris Muir coming in as appointments, with excellent contacts and influence. Heffernan’s background is outstanding, as is Brasher’s. So I can’t criticise the appointments we have on board (so to speak).
The treatment and loss of Hird was a literal tragedy, but in terms of playing the hand that Little was dealt, I think Little has done an outstanding job to set up the club to move forward.
I think the weapons used against us by the AFL made it impossible for Hird, but he did have a hell of a crack, but in the end I think Little mitigated a lot of the damage.That said, I’m still deflated by the bullying we’ve been subjected to by the AFL, and truly hope that James and his family can emerge from this intact and able to enjoy life, and the players can get enjoyment and success out of their time with EFC and beyond.
FARK the AFL.
Little is nothing more than a puppet of the AFL that was talking tough at the beginning but then did nothing else than what the AFL wanted, and he had an active role in the Hird tragedy.If you honestly believe that you probably should just sit down in the quiet room. That is so far from the truth as to be absurd.
I know it’s a popular view from the ‘need to make this conspiracy theory stand up set’, but it is just seriously, seriously wrong.
There is plenty to get ■■■■■■ off about in this whole sorry mess without inventing things to push your agenda. Little, and Campbell, and indeed all the board members I have met (which admittedly is not all of them), are as passionate and one eyed about the club as I am. The difference is they are in a very different position to me, and can’t afford all the holier than thou stuff that supporters can. We just make noise. Their behaviour has real world ramifications. They don’t get everything right, no one does. But how some can, on one hand, lambast sections of the media for making judgement without knowing or caring for the facts, and then on the other hand do exactly the same to our board, is beyond me. To say they are just AFL stooges is not only absolutely wrong, but also highly insulting to people who work extremely hard for the club we all love.
I’m sure they are all passionate, but the club under Little’s leadership caved in with court action alongside Hird, which was the best chance to put a stop to the AFL. Now they and the rest of the competition are stuck with the status quo. If Little hadn’t had such close ties with the AFL hierarchy maybe he would have continued the fight.
It makes me feel great that such passionate leaders of the club thought the best thing to do is to assist in destroying a club legend to help cover for their AFL buddies, and in doing so made the club look like a joke. Have you forgotten the best and fairest and no mention of Hird?
How is the destruction of Hird a ‘conspiracy theory’, and I need to sit down in the quiet room?
So, the two positions for voting at the AGM are Little and Jackson.So there will be 5 freshly elected directors after the next AGM, and those leaving have high level skills and experience. I like Paul Littles succession planning with Lindsay Tanner and Chris Muir coming in as appointments, with excellent contacts and influence. Heffernan’s background is outstanding, as is Brasher’s. So I can’t criticise the appointments we have on board (so to speak).
The treatment and loss of Hird was a literal tragedy, but in terms of playing the hand that Little was dealt, I think Little has done an outstanding job to set up the club to move forward.
I think the weapons used against us by the AFL made it impossible for Hird, but he did have a hell of a crack, but in the end I think Little mitigated a lot of the damage.That said, I’m still deflated by the bullying we’ve been subjected to by the AFL, and truly hope that James and his family can emerge from this intact and able to enjoy life, and the players can get enjoyment and success out of their time with EFC and beyond.
FARK the AFL.
Little is nothing more than a puppet of the AFL that was talking tough at the beginning but then did nothing else than what the AFL wanted, and he had an active role in the Hird tragedy.If you honestly believe that you probably should just sit down in the quiet room. That is so far from the truth as to be absurd.
I know it’s a popular view from the ‘need to make this conspiracy theory stand up set’, but it is just seriously, seriously wrong.
There is plenty to get ■■■■■■ off about in this whole sorry mess without inventing things to push your agenda. Little, and Campbell, and indeed all the board members I have met (which admittedly is not all of them), are as passionate and one eyed about the club as I am. The difference is they are in a very different position to me, and can’t afford all the holier than thou stuff that supporters can. We just make noise. Their behaviour has real world ramifications. They don’t get everything right, no one does. But how some can, on one hand, lambast sections of the media for making judgement without knowing or caring for the facts, and then on the other hand do exactly the same to our board, is beyond me. To say they are just AFL stooges is not only absolutely wrong, but also highly insulting to people who work extremely hard for the club we all love.I’m sure they are all passionate, but the club under Little’s leadership caved in with court action alongside Hird, which was the best chance to put a stop to the AFL. Now they and the rest of the competition are stuck with the status quo. If Little hadn’t had such close ties with the AFL hierarchy maybe he would have continued the fight.
It makes me feel great that such passionate leaders of the club thought the best thing to do is to assist in destroying a club legend to help cover for their AFL buddies, and in doing so made the club look like a joke. Have you forgotten the best and fairest and no mention of Hird?
How is the destruction of Hird a ‘conspiracy theory’, and I need to sit down in the quiet room?
ah come on, if the board and little kept on backing hird 100% it wouldnt have stopped anything any sooner, and it would have stagnated the club even further… whether or not you agree with the move to push hird out or him resigning (whatever the fark it was), surely you can see that a rational, objective board could come to the conclusion that it was better for the club to ask him to tender his resignation than to continue down the projectory that the past 3 years placed us on
maybe that projectory was something youd want to go down in the interests of saving a club legend, but at what cost… the board supported hird when it was in the interests of the club to do so and pushed him out when it was in its best interests to do so… its unfortunate that this sort of thing happened with a club legend (huge understatement) but frankly, tarnishing club legends is a risk you take when they go into coaching for the club they have legendary status at, should something go sour
seriously, if you want a board thats just going to tounge the coaches balls for the duration of their tenure, then youre going to be a ■■■■■ football club,
Benfti likes to keep it simple and just blame dank. Obliviously he also thinks the punishment we received was of course to much. But the fact is benfti, the matter is far more complex then that. The so called conspiracy theory’s are fact.
The AFL made the EFC a scapegoat when the federal government and ASADA came knocking. Sure the EFC made some mistakes but they did no more, or no less then the rest of the competition. The EFC where isolated for brand management.
All the evidence exists the EFC where conspired against, for those of us who have followed this very closely read every minuet of the court case etc. know this.
Little has done the best he possibly thought he could, but he was between a rock and a hard place. Unfortunately he chose to suck up the the AFL and by doing this has angered many of us. I fully understand why he did it, and respect the man, but it does not mean for one second that I or many of us like it.
So, the two positions for voting at the AGM are Little and Jackson.So there will be 5 freshly elected directors after the next AGM, and those leaving have high level skills and experience. I like Paul Littles succession planning with Lindsay Tanner and Chris Muir coming in as appointments, with excellent contacts and influence. Heffernan’s background is outstanding, as is Brasher’s. So I can’t criticise the appointments we have on board (so to speak).
The treatment and loss of Hird was a literal tragedy, but in terms of playing the hand that Little was dealt, I think Little has done an outstanding job to set up the club to move forward.
I think the weapons used against us by the AFL made it impossible for Hird, but he did have a hell of a crack, but in the end I think Little mitigated a lot of the damage.That said, I’m still deflated by the bullying we’ve been subjected to by the AFL, and truly hope that James and his family can emerge from this intact and able to enjoy life, and the players can get enjoyment and success out of their time with EFC and beyond.
FARK the AFL.
Little is nothing more than a puppet of the AFL that was talking tough at the beginning but then did nothing else than what the AFL wanted, and he had an active role in the Hird tragedy.If you honestly believe that you probably should just sit down in the quiet room. That is so far from the truth as to be absurd.
I know it’s a popular view from the ‘need to make this conspiracy theory stand up set’, but it is just seriously, seriously wrong.
There is plenty to get ■■■■■■ off about in this whole sorry mess without inventing things to push your agenda. Little, and Campbell, and indeed all the board members I have met (which admittedly is not all of them), are as passionate and one eyed about the club as I am. The difference is they are in a very different position to me, and can’t afford all the holier than thou stuff that supporters can. We just make noise. Their behaviour has real world ramifications. They don’t get everything right, no one does. But how some can, on one hand, lambast sections of the media for making judgement without knowing or caring for the facts, and then on the other hand do exactly the same to our board, is beyond me. To say they are just AFL stooges is not only absolutely wrong, but also highly insulting to people who work extremely hard for the club we all love.I’m sure they are all passionate, but the club under Little’s leadership caved in with court action alongside Hird, which was the best chance to put a stop to the AFL. Now they and the rest of the competition are stuck with the status quo. If Little hadn’t had such close ties with the AFL hierarchy maybe he would have continued the fight.
It makes me feel great that such passionate leaders of the club thought the best thing to do is to assist in destroying a club legend to help cover for their AFL buddies, and in doing so made the club look like a joke. Have you forgotten the best and fairest and no mention of Hird?
How is the destruction of Hird a ‘conspiracy theory’, and I need to sit down in the quiet room?
ah come on, if the board and little kept on backing hird 100% it wouldnt have stopped anything any sooner, and it would have stagnated the club even further… whether or not you agree with the move to push hird out or him resigning (whatever the fark it was), surely you can see that a rational, objective board could come to the conclusion that it was better for the club to ask him to tender his resignation than to continue down the projectory that the past 3 years placed us on
maybe that projectory was something youd want to go down in the interests of saving a club legend, but at what cost… the board supported hird when it was in the interests of the club to do so and pushed him out when it was in its best interests to do so… its unfortunate that this sort of thing happened with a club legend (huge understatement) but frankly, tarnishing club legends is a risk you take when they go into coaching for the club they have legendary status at, should something go sour
seriously, if you want a board thats just going to tounge the
coachesAFL and Media’s balls for the duration of their tenure, then youre going to be a ■■■■■ football club,
Fixed and yep, that is what has happened…
You know those who complain that some of us have not entirely moved on, are not obliged to participate in this thread. If you have moved on, good luck to you. But don't slag off the ones- like myself - that have not.
out of curiosity, what do you expect to gain from not moving on, let alone coming on here and wallowing in mutual pity party for hird ?
I’m not saying don’t do it, as you’ve gotta do what best suits you in any situation, but i am generally interested in what people expect to happen by doing it ?
Hird’s not coming back as coach. Even if it’s proved 100% that he did nothing wrong, it’s not going to change the perception of him in the eyes of people who want to see him as a bad guy in this saga.
Seems like there’s only really 2 options. Either accept and move on whether you agree with it or not, or don’t accept it and stop actively supporting the club cos of this decision.
it seems counterproductive to ones own sanity to stay in a state of limbo persay of not moving on one way or the other.
DKP, please - after all these years, I can’t take it any more.
It is not “persay”. It is “per se”.
Benfti likes to keep it simple and just blame dank. Obliviously he also thinks the punishment we received was of course to much. But the fact is benfti, the matter is far more complex then that. The so called conspiracy theory's are fact.The AFL made the EFC a scapegoat when the federal government and ASADA came knocking. Sure the EFC made some mistakes but they did no more, or no less then the rest of the competition. The EFC where isolated for brand management.
All the evidence exists the EFC where conspired against, for those of us who have followed this very closely read every minuet of the court case etc. know this.
Little has done the best he possibly thought he could, but he was between a rock and a hard place. Unfortunately he chose to suck up the the AFL and by doing this has angered many of us. I fully understand why he did it, and respect the man, but it does not mean for one second that I or many of us like it.
Absolute ■■■■■■■ rank cop out, that’s what that is.
Hird and Co wanted the program to be better than the rest of the competition and you’re content with EFC having made some mistakes.
The gate was left wide open for the scapegoaters to do their thing.
Benfti likes to keep it simple and just blame dank. Obliviously he also thinks the punishment we received was of course to much. But the fact is benfti, the matter is far more complex then that. The so called conspiracy theory's are fact.The AFL made the EFC a scapegoat when the federal government and ASADA came knocking. Sure the EFC made some mistakes but they did no more, or no less then the rest of the competition. The EFC where isolated for brand management.
All the evidence exists the EFC where conspired against, for those of us who have followed this very closely read every minuet of the court case etc. know this.
Little has done the best he possibly thought he could, but he was between a rock and a hard place. Unfortunately he chose to suck up the the AFL and by doing this has angered many of us. I fully understand why he did it, and respect the man, but it does not mean for one second that I or many of us like it.
Absolute ■■■■■■■ rank cop out, that’s what that is.
Hird and Co wanted the program to be better than the rest of the competition and you’re content with EFC having made some mistakes.
The gate was left wide open for the scapegoaters to do their thing.
It’s been well established that the program was implemented to catch up to the rest of the comp. Fair to say other clubs already had established supplement programs.
And it’s important to put it into context: there were half a dozen other clubs with equally poorly run programs.
So don’t give us that bullshit that ours was especially bad and especially ambitious.
Benfti likes to keep it simple and just blame dank. Obliviously he also thinks the punishment we received was of course to much. But the fact is benfti, the matter is far more complex then that. The so called conspiracy theory's are fact.The AFL made the EFC a scapegoat when the federal government and ASADA came knocking. Sure the EFC made some mistakes but they did no more, or no less then the rest of the competition. The EFC where isolated for brand management.
All the evidence exists the EFC where conspired against, for those of us who have followed this very closely read every minuet of the court case etc. know this.
Little has done the best he possibly thought he could, but he was between a rock and a hard place. Unfortunately he chose to suck up the the AFL and by doing this has angered many of us. I fully understand why he did it, and respect the man, but it does not mean for one second that I or many of us like it.
Absolute ■■■■■■■ rank cop out, that’s what that is.
Hird and Co wanted the program to be better than the rest of the competition and you’re content with EFC having made some mistakes.
The gate was left wide open for the scapegoaters to do their thing.It’s been well established that the program was implemented to catch up to the rest of the comp. Fair to say other clubs already had established supplement programs.
And it’s important to put it into context: there were half a dozen other clubs with equally poorly run programs.
So don’t give us that bullshit that ours was especially bad and especially ambitious.
Bullshit.
The only context you need to be concerned about is the EFC program.
The program was earmarked to be better than “them”. Dank walking through the corridors of Windy Hill unfettered and clueless about who received an injection on any particular day is especially bad. The boundaries were pushed and that’s ambitious.
Mods, shouldn’t this thread be in the Saga section?
You know those who complain that some of us have not entirely moved on, are not obliged to participate in this thread. If you have moved on, good luck to you. But don't slag off the ones- like myself - that have not.out of curiosity, what do you expect to gain from not moving on, let alone coming on here and wallowing in mutual pity party for hird ?
I’m not saying don’t do it, as you’ve gotta do what best suits you in any situation, but i am generally interested in what people expect to happen by doing it ?
Hird’s not coming back as coach. Even if it’s proved 100% that he did nothing wrong, it’s not going to change the perception of him in the eyes of people who want to see him as a bad guy in this saga.
Seems like there’s only really 2 options. Either accept and move on whether you agree with it or not, or don’t accept it and stop actively supporting the club cos of this decision.
it seems counterproductive to ones own sanity to stay in a state of limbo persay of not moving on one way or the other.
Most of us with heart and soul will never move on, it will always linger on in the background, the game will never be the same again. But there is action currently been taken in the background that I and others on here will fully support on principal alone. If there is a glimmer of hope, myself and others will support it.
Its not in me or many others to just shug our shoulders and say “ohh well can’t beet city hall may as well just forget it and move on.”
Until party’s are in some way held responsible for there actions we wont be moving on.
Mind you I am not losing sleep over it, just everyime I think of our club and the game the deep rooted anger is always there.