Everyone in football is judged on their performance. If that’s what the deal was then hindsight will say that it was a poor decision. Was i comfortable with it at the time personally? Sure. Not so much now though.
Spot on - it was a face saving exercise for Sydney to be able to get out of doing a trade.
Most particularly face saving for Tom Harley - he is the only one at the Swans that wanted Daniher, their football department didn’t.
They needed an out, and using Carlton’s pick 9 as part of a sham trade was the way to do it.
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I don’t want to really talk about why he wanted to leave. He was one of the biggest, mopiest sooks I’ve seen for the last 3 years. Contributed to the selfish culture. You would have thought we’d had him tied up in a torture chamber somewhere and not being paid 700-800K to sit on his ■■■■ and just try his best to rehab, which was apparently even too hard to do, and I trust Goddard when he said he didn’t really work hard enough in his rehab. Seems to have the same carefree, lazy attitude on the field.
I want to know how we get the best deal. Would pick 7 be best or perhaps Brisbane’s first this year (17 or 18) and their first next year? (in a strong draft?)
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People dont understand that 1 - they never had 9. And they werent doing the deal with carlton before the Daniher deal was done. That meant we would have had to rely on Carlton doing us a favour.
2. It was a future 1st. There would have been nothing to stop Sydney splitting pick 3 this year into 2 pick in the teens.
That’s not true. They couldnt split it if we already had it.
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Hard to know which option I’d prefer, tbh.
17 or 18 this year will get pushed back to around 25ish after NGA bids/compo. However, I’m really keen on securing as many future first picks as possible (given the strength of the draft next year).
All that said, maybe we want to avoid the FA compo pick scenario altogether if we’re planning on securing a FA of our own.
I imagine the club will be keen on a combination of picks + player.
you are not correct
You don’t think 9 was ever on offer?
100% agree.
For me, the question to rebuild or not revolved around our ability to get Joe fit then convincing him to stay.
Forcing him to see out his contract was not a bad move if the rest of the players were on board. Little did we know that they weren’t.
Unless we get Cameron this year, I am throwing the baby out with the bath water and pushing for a rebuild.
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At 2:10 Dodoro clearly says “they put 9 and a future first to us”. I’m genuinely curious what you think happened, and who is lying?
The Swans offered 9 that they hoped to get from Carlton, no one is disputing that, it is fact. Carlton never actually offered it though.
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Right. Interesting. At the time it was reported Carlton were pushing really hard to get Papley for 9, and were hoping they could get the trade done regardless of Joe. Trade time is full of lies and deceit. Hard to ever get the real picture.
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That was the media saying that because the Swans were pushing it, it wasn’t Carlton pushing it. Carlton seem to be wanting to short change on trading atm. It’s going to hurt them moving forward when some of their players want to leave.
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I offer things that I do no thave all the time. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t.
In hindsight if EFC had of accepted pick 9 and the future first pick; without Papley this year, Swans could have easily finished last, and we would have had pick 1 !!!
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Yep. Even pick 3 would be a dream! Not that we’re too far off.
Dodorro is an absolute dud and I want him gone, but scuppering Tom Harley and Dipsh1t Charlie Gardiner last year was 100% the right thing to after the way they tapped him up.
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I’m with you. He has no reason to say it if Swans didn’t offer it thinking they could make the deal happen with Carlton. I don’t buy into any conspiracy that Sydney and Dodoro concocted a plan to make it so the swans didn’t get him, that’s outlandish in my opinion.
Just looks like a big mistake which people are trying to defend Disco for. Again.
What? Sydney would not have been able to ‘split’ a pick they had already traded
Fact of the matter is we did not want draft picks. We were losing one of the best FWDs in the comp, and wanted a ready made good player as part of the deal. Hindsight shows we would have gotten pick 3, but the club approach to this was fine.
Listen to the dodoro interview on the Essendon website then and find out straight from the source.