John Worsfold - will not get a new contract in 2021

[Sameolds2010]

Good old Lloyd, coming up with something others have already said.

His battery must be fully charged

[Mr_Sunbury_1]

Somebody else posted it earlier in the year. Something about getting him as an assistant with a view to him being a potential senior coach.

I posted in May saying Solomon had been spoken to about a role in 2020. I believe Sumich was also spoken to but think he’d be long odds to come.

[Sameolds2010]

Essendon’s decision to only firmly back Worsfold in for 2020 on Sunday, puzzled former player Brendon Goddard, with the defender questioning why it took so long for a commitment to the 2006 premiership winning coach.

“The club hadn’t come out til now, why has it taken so long?” he said on 3AW .

“Had they done their due-diligence, looked into it and no-one they think is better to replace Woosha at the minute? Why has it taken so long to commit to Woosha?”

1 Well BJ, the coach does have a contract until the end of 2020. So on the one hand there’s a contract to honour. So why say anything.

2 but sure, footy being footy there is at times a need to say stuff for the media who where after a head. In that case let’s go for “the season had just finished for the AFL side, so waiting for that to occur is the best time to make an announcement to the media”

Lloyd, Watson and now BJ.

Apart from that peice of ■■■■, dwarf, sniper Shaw, or reactionary, captain obvious or just plain wrong maclure, you don’t ever really see ex Collingwood or FC players players stick the boot in when chips are down.

Those first three mis quoted or not, don’t help. We even had one who was still playing recognise the status of the club.

I suppose our recent circumstances don’t help, but surely if youve Donna la shaza you can contribute helpfully and still do your job.

And maybe even a retraction or two wouldn’t hurt.

Except for Carlisle, who was very accurate.

[chris_64]

Worsfold keeps talking about learnings yet seems to learn nothing himself.

Exquisitely Incisive.

He is extremely reluctant to change anything contrary to his long held beliefs.
Pick under done unfit Hooker to play in EF on a champion player ( experienced players needed in finals)
Leaves Hooker on Kennedy and others, who were tearing Hooker apart. ( Back our boys)
Doggedly refused to employ a tagger, for 3 1/2 years when opponents tagged our players out of games, and at the end in a number of instances he gave those same taggers maximum coaches votes
( tagging doesn’t work in a team defence)

Inflexible, conservative, staid, and in 2019 retreated the bench to coaching players as they come off the field and leaving tactics to those in the box to recommend.

[rossoneri]

Love lloyd, but looks like he is doing a caro trick here. Says a statement, proven to be wrong, now trying to say he was right and club changed the conditions.

[rossoneri]

The solly talk has been going for a while. MRsunbury* posted something ages ago.

*Can’t tag because I don’t know where the underscore is in his username and it’s too hard on an android via firefox

[Hoffy]

There some leakers, from within the club to specific media people. They would also be talking to the likes of Lloyd, Timmy.

[Bomb_Doe]

In any significant organisation you’d expect differences of opinion and people pushing agendas - because they can and want to.

The nature of footy clubs is that if you are struggling then there will be chatter about fixing the situation. We are not flying so there will be chatter.

[Hoffy]

Agree, but it feels like recently, people have been leaking for the purpose of destabilisation, via the media.

[Bomb_Doe]

agendas

[efc1robbo]

Our ball movement has looked terrible often and led us to being the “turnover kings” of the AFL.

I even saw it, on stark display, in the VFL game on the weekend when Werribee took something like 23 intercept marks - nearly all in our forward half of the ground - and would have hung on and won if they had not dropped the 24th.

Worsfold’s game plan has this insane desire to push our forwards up the ground in the hope that the opposition defenders follow them and then our forwards can somehow lose them in transition as they run back into our F50.

It is the easiest thing to coach against - you just get your HB line to let the forwards race up to wing and stay positioned just inside Essendon’s F50. As long as a bit of pressure is applied on the Essendon players coming out of defence to force them to kick long, then you can mop up all day long. Which is what (the better) teams in the AFL have been doing against us for two years. It’s what Werribee defenders were doing on the weekend.

The only times it works are when McKenna and/or Saad can break free and use great speed and skill to race up the ground, find space and deliver the ball to advantage by foot to someone forward of centre. Most of our best plays this have involved either or both of McKenna & Saad or Walla (playing in similar vein) in the midfield.

It is what I detest most about Worsfold’s coaching - it doesn’t work hardly at all against the best sides (hence we keep finishing 8-10) as our W-L ratio against the top sides shows.

A close second is Worsfold’s desire to pick mediocre and/or injured/unfit senior players because they are “experienced” ahead of promising juniors who look ready to take the step into AFL until it’s too late e.g. Zac Clarke over Draper. That hardly ever works - it didn’t work in our first game of the year in Round 1 and didn’t work in our last game of the year in the EF. In those bookend games we looked unfit, were out-worked, slaughtered at contested ball, turned the ball over and were duly thrashed.

If anyone thinks we have improved over the course of the year, they are kidding themselves. We ended the year woefully short of the best teams like we started it. Comparing the bookend games - and the similarities between both - is an indictment on the coach.

Nothing was learned from Round 1; or, if it was, not applied. Worsfold keeps talking about learnings yet seems to learn nothing himself. That tells me he has no room for improvement as a coach, so why is he staying on? He has proven he can’t improve.

Yes, we have a much younger list than 3 years, yes there was a big gap in experience against the Eagles in the EF. But, as senior coach, Worsfold is accountable for game plan and team selection and he has shown to be poor at both over the past 2 seasons in my view.

@Diggers, he makes some good points doesn’t he

Still waiting by the way

[barnz]

imagine if @Diggers wasn’t a sanctimonious franklin fan masquerading as a swans fan in a bombers forum.

[LeonBaker4Eva]

Thank you for telling it exactly the way it is and will be under Worsfold.

[Diggers]

I know. Your life would be even sadder.

[JohnRain]

and then our forwards can somehow lose them in transition as they run back into our F50.

Classic Pagan’s Paddock.

Excellent post, BTW. Agreed.

[fademan]

Agree, we’ll end up about the same, except next year we’ll have to deal with a resurgent Carlton twice.

FMD - if we are worried by Fark Carlton now, something is seriously wrong.

I was at the game in 99. I get full blown panic attacks when ever I see that ■■■■■■■■■ jumper, and obviously the players do too, because we tend to go full blown Essington when we play them.

[efc1robbo]

imagine if @Diggers wasn’t a sanctimonious franklin fan masquerading as a swans fan in a bombers forum.

could be worse. Imagine being a bombers fan who left them when they were at their lowest ebb. Then you and start supporting a top of the table team, now THAT is weak!

[Mendozaaaa]

What’s the point of sacking him when whatever we’d pay him out would be under this football department salary cap nonsense. If next year is a write off again, so be it, what’s one more year in 16 of failure. I don’t think this is his fault, we need someone to weed out the cultural issue of being rubbish.

[SeddonBomber]

we need someone to weed out the cultural issue of being rubbish.

This is actually the issue. It’s entrenched within the club. The saga didn’t help that change at all. If we’ve failed for 15 years in a row, culture must be a part of the issue.

[SMJ]

You’re extra salty lately? What gives B man?