List build - where are we going in the next 10,000 posts?

It’s amazing that over this 5 year period they drafted 12 of their premiership winning team, plus trading for May, Lever and Langdon.

It shows the value of actually having a good recruiting and list management team.

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yep, a lot of dees fans weren’t happy to lose hogan for May at the time. plenty grizzled about letting watts walk for a packet of chips. both were the right calls at the time. Plenty also thought they over paid for lever too.

the list managers assessed the list objectively, identified needs and identified the under performing assets they could leverage to address the needs. compare that to how we approached the daniher situation and bringing in shiel etc

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take out the top 4 picks and it doesn’t look that great

The top 4 list looks outstanding
petracca
brayshaw
oliver
jackson

They got a bunch of best 22 players with picks in the 30s - how is that not great?

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Highly doubtful, and you’d be nearly first in the queue.

Rebuild - just don’t actually rebuild to do it.

Our forward stocks could potentially be very thin coming into 2025

Next year is essentially make or break for Stringer, Weideman and Jones all coming out of contract

I reckon this year was make or break for Weideman. He’ll be lucky to get another game in the 1’s. The coaches gave him a very good run and he clearly wasn’t up to it

I still think Weideman is a chance to play some games next year, will get to train all preseason with Wright, what are the chances that jones or Hunter or Reid can get on the park for Round 1.

I feel like Weed is the kind of pr!ck who will get a chance about round 15 and come in and play career best footy for the rest of the year and tease his way into another contract at AFL level.

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rubbish, i’ve been asking for a full rebuild minimum 3 years worth of top 4 picks for a long long time.

can’t speak for everyone else though.

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I think we are at the wrong point list profile wise to do a bottom out rebuild. If your best players are in their prime age wise and our are (Merret, Parish, Ridley, Langford, Redman, Draper, 2MP, McGrath), then if you plan to bottom out for 3 to 4 years, you’re wasting their careers. I don’t think we have the depth of talent in this group to win a flag but it’s still the correct strategy to build over the next few years around them. The free agents this off-season help in the depth in this group. If it doesn’t yield anything we need and should do the full rebuild.

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Jones is the only only one worth worrying about from a list build perspective. The other two are irrelevant.

With the delisting of Voss does that give us more then 3 selections in this years draft?

The point is that’s all we have! We could delist all of them and be left with only Wright and Langford

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Your answer is here:

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Yep, the problem is the longer the club goes without winning a final, the less acceptable this will be for fans.

There’s no way we are not having a massive throw at the stumps for a top key forward next year.

The fact we’ve heavily front loaded the new free agent contracts is just more evidence.

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We are constantly stuck in this prisoner’s dilemma where our list is never truly bad enough to warrant a full rebuild, but equally never good enough to push up the ladder.

That’s the irony of Dodoro. He hasn’t been bad enough to destroy our list and put us in bottom 6 for 5 years, but hasn’t been good enough to put us in top 6. As a result, it’s hurt us more long term as we keep missing out on the elite players of the comp.

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We should double down on the Kelly gang from Collingwood

Kill Welly

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Interesting by the saints, sacrificing a list spot in a way to attract better players to come play VFL for them for the AFL opportunity.

Maybe something the AFL should consider, each club gets an extra list spot just to upgrade a VFL aligned player at their club. Might encourage more players to hang around in the VFL system rather than go play local footy for more money.

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