Tagger
October 24, 2024, 1:03am
7514
This is the first trade period I can remember when the club was actually shopping it’s own players. That’s a huge change in strategy.
Even last year when there were rumours of Shiel to Saints, all trade period, Dodoro was puffing his chest out saying Shiel was a required player
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Tagger
October 24, 2024, 1:04am
7515
You could say that about a lot of players really. Is Battle or Perryman (or even McKay) a first round player
Ants
October 24, 2024, 1:06am
7516
Tagger:
This is the first trade period I can remember when the club was actually shopping it’s own players. That’s a huge change in strategy.
Even last year when there were rumours of Shiel to Saints, all trade period, Dodoro was puffing his chest out saying Shiel was a required player
We shopped one player who had infringed off field, a ~28tr old depth player (Lav) and a >30yr old fringe player (Shiel).
We put up Shiel last year, and Francis in 2022. Comparable moves.
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Tagger
October 24, 2024, 1:06am
7517
Dodoro was saying Shiel was a required player all trade period. Nothing to suggest we were shopping him last year
Stringer has had these offfield issues from day one at Essendon, so why have we suddenly changed? Dodoro assured us that his issues were all baseless rumours
Francis was out of contract and I doubt we were doing to sign him
Ants
October 24, 2024, 2:28am
7518
I really don’t see how that has any relevancy? It’s not like you can’t trade/delist them anyway.
We have brought in a bunch of mediocre senior players to the club in recent years, what are you on about?
Wright
Kelly
Phillips
Hind
Weideman
Setterfield
McKay
Gresham
Goldstein
While some of these pickups have been ok, my issue is some of them have played roles that we should have instead given to senior guys (eg Phillips and Goldy over Bryan and Setterfield over Hobbs and Tsatas). It’s short term decision making that has killed development and has pushed us up the ladder at the detriment to the long term benefit of the club
And we’re keeping Goldy and Lav around. This strategy allows us to bring in players again in 2026, which would be 3 years after the FA fest of 2023, which was 3 years after the fringe replacement purchase of 2020.
I don’t see any huge difference.
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Ants
October 24, 2024, 2:32am
7519
And yet everyone knows he almost went to St Kilda. If not for the injury.
Maybe everyone is wrong, but that is the consensus story.
Because the incident was this year???
It’s not his normal off-field issues that drove us to all but cut him and Hind.
And yet we shopped him. If we hadn’t, probably don’t pick up Weid.
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What do you want the club to do exactly?
Why do we want to trade anyone with value for all we know the player we replace that we draft could be a dud or not as good
Ants
October 24, 2024, 2:42am
7521
Do a full rebuild. I’ve been pretty clear on that. Anyone over 25 is on the trade table. Get 2-4 years of top 4 picks.
The draft is too much of a lottery to bank on so many high picks imo.
Only player that would fetch a top 10 pick is Merret
Others wlll be lucky to get us teen picks or later.
No one will pay top 10 picks for Parish,Ridley,McGrath,Redman etc
Ants
October 24, 2024, 2:53am
7523
Langford? And we’ll get top 4 picks by being crap.
Parish if he has an injury free season would be.
Langford worth about 18-25 range
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A club would have to take his massive contract not sure they would.
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Ants
October 24, 2024, 2:59am
7526
You think clubs wouldn’t pay a top 10 pick (or equivalent) for a 40-50 goal a year forward??? Especially if we paid a chunk of his contract.
If he goes to a bottom 6 team i can see it but langers would want to go to a team thats contending for flag where we would get unders
Ants
October 24, 2024, 3:04am
7528
Which is why I said “or equivalent”. You trade the picks to move up like Carlton did this year, or Bulldogs last year.
So we have to move mutliple players so we can get one or 2 picks in the top 10
And WC are dumb and got fleeced by Carlton. Only reason they traded pick 3 is they were desprate to get Baker to the club and Calrton had the picks they needed.
Let’s trade Langford for a draft pick that might, if we’re lucky, be as good as Langford.
He’s 27. If we’re not contending by the time he’s ready to retire then we have bigger problems.
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Depends whether there’s any talk of shady associates and non-football lifestyle… in which case pick… ooh… say, 53 would do it…
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Ants
October 24, 2024, 3:12am
7532
You really lack reading comprehension, don’t you?
I wrote the equivalent value for Langford .
Dunnybrush:
Let’s trade Langford for a draft pick that might, if we’re lucky, be as good as Langford.
He’s 27. If we’re not contending by the time he’s ready to retire then we have bigger problems.
You think we’ll be premiership contenders in the next 4 seasons??? And we clearly already have big problems.
I’d certainly hope so. 4 Years is a long time.
End of next season it’s highly likely that Goldstein, Shiel, Laverde and Setterfield will be off the list. We’ll be young. Merrett will potentially be our only players in their 30’s. Langford is one of the few current players that we can rely on for effort, output and some form of leadership. I don’t think trading him is in our best interests.
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