List build - where are we going in the next 70,000 posts? (Part 3)

Walter is a rebuild piece. Young and aggressive. Something to build the team around. A genuine KPF.

Great question! I have no idea how we get any of these players tbh…

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Just to play fantasy football for a moment, I agree that Walter alongside Caddy would look very nice indeed! I’m not sure giving the farm away is for him is ideal! But I can’t see GC letting him go for anything less than 1-2 1st round picks. If we gave them our pick 1 or 2 from this year (let’s face it we’re bottom 2 with Richmond) would you be okay with this?

Yep. He was a pick 2.

Not many KPF’s of his profile become available. Most draft top ends are just midfielders.

what do all 5 of these players have in common?

If any player voluntarily decides to go to Essendon, yiu have to question their decision making.

It’s career suicide.

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You can’t say the trade was 7 and 8 for Trac. The trade (ignoring where picks landed on draft night) was: 7, 8, 2026 1st and 2026 3rd for Trac, 24, 28 and 2026 2nd.

Comparing it to the Hawks offer - you can say both Hawks and Suns 2026 first had a similar value last year. So it’s really how you compare the Hawks offer of 10 and 22 for nothing in return or GC’s offer of 7, 8 and 2026 3rd for 24, 28 and F2 in return.

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To be fair, this isn’t what I said. I said that it ‘pretty much’ came down to that because…

..if you exclude 7, 8 and Trac, the remaining pick swaps between the two clubs tend to even out.

We’re obviously going to have a very early pick this year (and probably pretty early again next year, even with Tassie having so many early picks).

It’s a great opportunity to add some really top end talent to what we’ve assembled over the last three drafts.

Early season I know, but Van Hattum is the one I’d want this year. The chance for a giant, generational ruck that is also very good aerially and forward of centre is too good to pass up. It would put a really nice stamp on our potential future midfield:

Duursma - Farrow - Martin
Sharp - Van Hattum - Robey

Rotations: Durham - Caldwell - Bewick - Plus others pending drafting/development

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Van Hattum doesn’t look like a bean pole

He is certainly not a beanpole. He’s quite the physical beast - but hasn’t sacrificed his leap in being that big.

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That’s what I noticed too looks physical already

Van Hattum and Caddy forward line. if we drafted him we could offload 2MP

I’d say three seconds is overs for a likely very late first.

Depends what the seconds are and when they are.

You’re also not taking into account that Melbourne also received 37 and a 2027 third along with GC’s future first.

Agreed. Hell, @Aceman and I were saying at the start of the trade period that #9, F1 and a second rounder was enough. #10, #22 and F1 was definitely sufficient.

The people arguing hardest it was unders are saying so on the pretext that any “acceptable” deal had to be overs due to his contract, captaincy, and the actions of Merrett and/or Hawthorn in the media in the lead-up. Well, if you redefine what is sufficient high enough, then of course any deal becomes “unders”.

Would I have liked more? Hell yes. But that doesn’t mean that taking the deal wouldn’t have led to a better position right now.

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We might have taken Sweid. And he might have given us more defensive ability in the F50. Or we might not have. No idea how the club would have acted. It certainly would have given us choices though!

Yep, I’ve been pointing out that with the new rules and Cochrane/Walker rated #1 and #2, its as possible that Hawks first rounder will move up the order as that it will move back.

Even if its #7 and #8, that isn’t too far off #10, F1 and #22. Especially given the F1 is likely to not move around too much, whereas the 2025 picks (as we know) moved out 5+ spots.

The Hawks 2026 F1 isn’t too likely to move due to:

  • With the expansion of the salary cap and lots of big deals, the odds of getting a Band 1 compo for anyone this year other than Zac Bailey is low (Port to match Butters). And Brissie is likely to have a pick after Hawks, so their compo won’t affect their pick.
  • The new F/S rules and the expectation Walker & Cochrane will go top 2 means 3-4 picks before Hawks’ first are likely to be used, moving the pick up 1-2 spots. That may be pushed back by any academy bids after that, but its likely to remain around its original spot.
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Ya know something…I think you’re right.

A couple of days ago I said that the Merrett deal was slightly unders (still would have taken it)

Then @Aceman pointed out that Petracca had longer to go on his contract. Plus, Trac’s injury concerns were restricted to just one season. And Zach is a year older.

Mind changed. Deal was fair.

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People forget the GC wanted to trade out early because of their swag of academy picks. As long as they got back 2nd and 3rd rounders they achieved their aims.