Oliver and Weidemann
Vs
Parish and Francis.
Right now, reckon Jackets is feeling pretty good about himself.
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We did not have chance to pick Oliver
I know that. Iām not one of the nuffys who donāt understand pick 4 comes before 5&6 
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I am just saying
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What do these pairs of players have to do with one another? You could pull any combination of the 70 odd players drafted that year and it would have as much meaning
Well some people tend to unfavourably critique our drafting that year. We had pick 5&6, they had 4&9. I thought it was an interesting weekend for some people to revisit that assertion.
But hey, what I can do if you like is request to the mods that making comments comparing pairs of top 10 picks in the same draft in a list mgmt thread be a bannable offense?
Or maybe next time I want to make a comment Iāll check with you if you think there is enough meaning in it for you?
I trust you will also ask the same question to those comparing Laverde to Boekhorst this weekend?
Edit - yes a little narkyā¦
Well that was a proportional responseā¦
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He may be feeling narky.
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To play a straight bat.
- Melbourne jumped the queue to get pick 3.
- We both had 2 picks inside 10.
- we were looking at the same players.
- Parish has been compared to Oliver a lot, obviously Oliver alone has him covered.
- both teams drafted a mid and a tall.
- the 2015 draft has been quoted a either questionable or a failure by some blitzers.
- this is a list mgmt thread.
- if I compared Francis and Parish to Ben Crocker and Rupert Wills would that have as much meaning as youāve suggested???
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1972 and 1973 Des Tuddenham
1968 Jack Clarke
Ouch. That one really hurt.
Whatās ron with you?
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Seeing Zerk play this week again confirmed that heās the long term answer down back post Hurley and Hooker. It may be premature but Iām comfortable enough to put it out there. Francis too has the third tall role nailed. Zerk will likely take another year, and Hooker and Hurley have two-three years left each.
In the interim do you trade one of the Hās out, bring in King in the draft(pick 8) to be your long term replacement and then rotate and build up him and Zerk in the seconds over the next 18 months to two years and roll them through the firsts with Ambrose or Hartley part of a key back rotation?. Just a thoughtā¦
Letās assume that itās Hurley you put up for trade to GWS.
To begin the season you might be playing Francis, Ambrose or Hartley, and Hooker whilst in the reserves we blood and accelerate the development of Zerk and King who become your key defenders for the next 10 years plus. We commit to getting 7 games into them both next year at a minimum. If they play more greatā¦ it reduces the role of your back up and/or also helps to preserves Hookerās career potentially as a key forward again.
The thinking is that the loss in the short term, is offset in with the knowledge that the departing player (Hurley) will soon start to decline (if he isnāt already), you have adequate back up, donāt give up a valuable early first in a trade, and importantly youāve got an accelerated succession plan in full motion in a part of the ground where we will soon be in decline.
The additional upshot is that you could help GWS in a part of the ground where they need support but you give up less (in future development terms) by packaging up a Hurley up with our first next year for SHIELā¦ Hell weāll also give them Matty Dea! .
2020, we commence managing Hooker and reduce games for one of our back ups whilst watching King and Thatcher starting to tear it up and Shiel killing it in the midfield.
Whilst I love Hurls, Iām thinking about the futureā¦ thoughts?
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No.
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The truth is EFC donāt trade away players like Hurley unless they want out. So any discussion about it is just theoretical and in the end pointless.
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Letās just win the flag next year. Trading out Hurley isnāt going to help that goal.
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A hypothetical
- Assume that pick #8 is either used on a midfielder in the draft or traded for a midfielder.
- Assume that Leuy retires, Green is delisted, McNiece is delisted, Smack is prmoted and Long is delisted, but can be re-rookied.
That would mean weād have 3 remaining picks in the ND and 2 in the rookie draft (that can be used on Long). We would have a late 2nd rounder (GWSās pick), and then a 4th and 5th rounder. So after that first pick a pretty weak hand.
We would also have 2 potential father son selections (Fletcher & Neagle) and an academy player in Hanna.
What would your strategy be? What would you like to see us do?
My preferences:
- Another small forward who can bring pressure. Parker in the WAFL sounds good, but whether they are fast or sneaky or a good mark, the ability to bring pressure is a non-negotiable.
- Another two midfielders to keep adding options. I donāt think our depth here is fantastic, as if you donāt rate Colyer the only dedicated midfielders who are depth are Mutch, Clarke, Mynott and Begley. Happy for one of these picks to be a mature player, as I donāt think our midfield depth was tested in 2018, but that need obviously may be tempered depending on who we get with #8. Pickett sounds good (flexible as well), but would likely be gone. One of the two should be outside with preferably a bit of toe as the guys I listed before are more inside. Iām assuming Colyer will be gone in 2019.
- Rookie Fletcher and Neagle (unfortunately say goodbye to Long), which gives us another small defender option to replace McNiece and another young tall.
So effectively 2 more mids, a small forward, a small defender and another tall. Depending on who #8 is used on, Iād be happy with replacing one of those mids with another small forward with midfield potential.
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I donāt think the number of rookie picks is correct.
Smack promoted and McNeice and long delisted leaves 3 rookie picks. Or 2 if McNeice is Cat 2.
Long is on the senior list. He was promoted last year as heād spent the maximum 3 years as a rookie (drafted 2014). Having spent a year on the senior list, he can be re-rookied now and spend up to another 3 years on the rookie list.
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