List build - where are we? Where are we going next


#3241

Scottish ■■■■■■■.


#3242

Require nothing more for next 4 years.

Complete.


#3243

I say we go straight down the guts.


#3244

Edited for accuracy


#3245

I think if there is one thing we could add to the list right now it would an absolute blitzkrieg midfield runner with pace and an elite engine who works both ways. Scully, Brad hill, Isaac Smith. Someone in that mold.

It would be the icing on our midfield cake - poise, creativity, strength, pace, stamina


#3246

Raz could play that role to perfection.

The argument is that it weakens the forward line. I reckon he still kicks bags from the midfield and with goal assists might even out.


#3247

See that’s my argument for why we should draft a couple more small forwards (well one of, that and depth). See if we can’t get lucky and find another diamond in the rough which would allow Fantasia to spend more time in the midfield.


#3248

No doubt guys like Smith and hopefully Zerrett and McGrath will spend more time resting forward this season. But I think they’ll still be predominantly midfield. Essentially we’ve got Fanta, Tippa and Bags as small forwards.
Long should be delisted. The only other option on the list is Colyer and he’s not a small forward.
We’re also short for outside mid depth.

Essentially Green, Merrett and Long need to be replaced by new young guys who can play forward or wing. If Bags is delisted, we need one more.


#3249

McKenna and McGrath could both develop into that kind of player, but you can never have too many elite runners


#3250

I just don’t see McKenna the midfielder on the horizon. McGrath I can certainly see in the middle but not really as an an elite outside player. I think he’s too good in close and his kicking isn’t a huge asset


#3251

Both good points, McKenna certainly is a weapon of the HB and I’d be reluctant to move him from there.

I feel we’ve barely scratched the surface on McGrath’s potential, I hope he spends some time forward this year and develops his forward craft some more.


#3252

With Shiel I don’t think we can afford another “star” and sustain.
We have close to the right mix and probably needs mature depth to drop off for youth.
Start by moving on a Dea or Hartley for Fletcher jnr. We have depth in Brown, Ambrose and Zerk if Hurley or Hooker go down.
We may have too much backline depth and Baguely on has a year max so we need 2 additional forwards, most likely small/medium.
Midfield is all good but need Luey replacement this or next trade.


#3253

Whaaaa?


#3254

Very interesting exercise this one, which many of you nerds have probably done at some time or another.

Print off the Essendon team list from this year (Footywire).
Cross off the 3 Delistings.
Add in Dylan Shiel and 2 other Draftees.

Then go down the page and write down what you believe each player is being paid next year.
FYI, next year’s Salary Cap is 12.7mil, and up to 105% of that can be paid dependant on previous years (refer to SplitRound’s thread for further info).

Once completed, as I began to tally up the figures, I knew I’d be well over.
I used a flat amount of 100k for Rookies and 1st/2nd year players, which may be a fraction over.

My total came to 14.5 mil :grimacing:
Assuming we can go the full 105%, the max figure is just under 13.4 mil.
Obviously, I’ve over stated some of the players wages !


#3255

Fairly sure rookies are closer to 50/60K


#3256

Whilst it’s a fun exercise to run, it really doesn’t mean much at all.

There are too many variables that we don’t know about.
We are not privy to players salary, whether a contract is front loaded, match payments, bonuses and whether contracts are ‘restructured’ so that new signings can be made.

Also, the contract figure stated in the media is usually over exaggerated.


#3257

We definitely need another small forward or two.
We struggled at times this year to fill that position when Raz was injured.
Green and Jerrett who were our back up small forwards have been delisted.


#3258

It’s not an interesting exercise at all and I’m sure most haven’t done it.

There are too many complexities built into player wages that we simply know nothing about, so it’s a completely pointless exercise.

On a side note, where did you get the $12.7m from as the salary cap? I heard the other day on trade radio (I think it might have been Barrett but not sure) they said the average salary for main list players will be about $400k from next year. I thought that didn’t sound right. If the $12.7m is right, then it’s not far over $300k so typically whoever that was, was wrong.


#3259

SplitRound’s thread states that the Salary Cap for 2019 is $12,758,095.

It was an interesting exercise for me as it confirms that people have a tendency to overstate player salaries.
Clearly, I did that myself, and by a fair margin !


#3260

Fact is very few players have a guaranteed figure. For all bar the top few on your list it is a base figure, which grows according to games played, personal kpi’s, b&f finishes, etc etc etc. It’s almost impossible to work out what most of them get. The only way for sure to know the contract figure is to be told by the people involved. That will give you the base figure. And even then, outside of that top handful, you still have no idea of the actual earnings of most of the list.