Lunchtime Catch Up Podcast - 2024 Player review Part 2 now out

[Paul_Peos]

@Rhino-D

You ever notice how they haven’t got the number of days since Essendon won a final displayed on that same membership card they send you?

Gosh that would be amazing!

Imagine the club having that level of self awareness?

[Rhino-D]

This club refuses to hold itself accountable for anything.

I’ll never forget that Brendan Gale interview on FC where they were grilling him about the audacity of his 5 year multi-premiership plan and implied that he should be embarrassed by it becoming public.

Nobody at Essendon would ever even dream of responding the way he did, completely genuine, unwavering and unapologetic.

It’s not hard to see why the tigers achieved their objectives under that sort of leadership.

[Banone32]

Thanks mate, ill save my breath and simply pull pin.

[Sweet16]

Other clubs could probably use that to sell more memberships. “Sign up before Xmas and get your free commemorative 7500 days since Essendon won a final pin. Also includes free drinks card at our 8000 days party.”

[Sniggles]

It comes down to whether or not you attribute our late season collapse in 2013 to the players being told behind the scenes they weren’t playing finals, or just typical, business as usual 21st century Essendon.

We were a top 4 team that year until that game vs Hawthorn. There’s an argument to be made that we were top 4 due to wins owed to an emotional response to the media onslaught at the time, however we were generally on an upwards trajectory following the hiring of Hird.

I’d argue we played more impressive football in 2014, however I can’t agree with @blob saying we were onto “something great” for all the reasons that a visibly frustrated Bomba expressed in his pressers that year.

That era of Essendon will always be a “what-if,” but it’s worth remembering that the Saga was ultimately merely a symptom of our illness.

[barnz]

again, how convenient

[blob]

@Paul_Peos

@blob

EFC was clearly on the way back to something great before the AFL/ASADA fit up

I don’t think that was clear at all. The three seasons before that fateful press conference:

2010 - finish bottom 4, sack the coach
2011 - scrape into finals, get humiliated in them.
2012- Start with an 8-1 record, lose 10 of the last 13 games to miss finals.

Seemed very much business as usual to me.

I understand that success was not guaranteed.

My point was that the immense upheaval that occurred then cannot be conveniently ignored when diagnosing the club’s ongoing malaise since the Sheedy era.

[Tipoofthesteinberg]

Spot on, it is almost like we are expected to celebrate when our team has a decent crack- it is a non-negotiable in every other club. Imagine dishing those efforts consistently at the swans or cats. They just would not play seniors.

[Clone_Hirdy]

@Banone32

I need help. I spent 2 hours typing an email to cancel my membership then stared at it for another hour. Detailed reasoning (as respectfully as I could) but I just couldnt bring myself to send it. I know many if you will say do it for the greater good, but i feel like ill be a sad case (well more so) re turning back on them. Yes im getting therapy. If anyone here did cancel, did you detail reasons etc? Get a reply? Thanks

I haven’t been a member for 20 years and won’t be one until they sack the entire board and start again. I don’t feel bad at all, I feel vindicated. Best thing supporters can do is not renew memberships and let the team get taken over by the AFL.

[Banone32]

Yeah, sigh, you right.

[j_w]

@Banone32

I need help. I spent 2 hours typing an email to cancel my membership then stared at it for another hour. Detailed reasoning (as respectfully as I could) but I just couldnt bring myself to send it. I know many if you will say do it for the greater good, but i feel like ill be a sad case (well more so) re turning back on them. Yes im getting therapy. If anyone here did cancel, did you detail reasons etc? Get a reply? Thanks

Feel free to provide me your login and I’ll send for you.

It will be the most liberating thing you will do.

[TempleOfParish]

While I agree with your overall point- dont think we were heading to any meaningful success.

That team was mostly put together before the saga, just because that news broke when it did shouldnt automatically discredit 2013.

[Windy_Dill]

@Clone_Hirdy

@Banone32

I need help. I spent 2 hours typing an email to cancel my membership then stared at it for another hour. Detailed reasoning (as respectfully as I could) but I just couldnt bring myself to send it. I know many if you will say do it for the greater good, but i feel like ill be a sad case (well more so) re turning back on them. Yes im getting therapy. If anyone here did cancel, did you detail reasons etc? Get a reply? Thanks

I haven’t been a member for 20 years and won’t be one until they sack the entire board and start again. I don’t feel bad at all, I feel vindicated. Best thing supporters can do is not renew memberships and let the team get taken over by the AFL.

Did you ever consider that our success depends on you signing up? There’s a strong correlation between you leaving the club and our malaise.

[Clone_Hirdy]

@Windy_Dill

Did you ever consider that our success depends on you signing up? There’s a strong correlation between you leaving the club and our malaise.

I haven’t been to a losing game in 2 years. Sure I only go to games against North and Richmond, but stats are stats.

[Bessie]

Best post ever….

[is_good_is_don]

@hirdylloydy

honestly believe the talent is there

Yeah but, the salary cap kind of ensures that every team is going to have talent , roughly the same amount of raw talent in fact. The difference between the teams is always going to be psychological, physiological and coaching… the areas we fall down.

[hirdylloydy]

absolutely, look at carlton last year, a basket case then world beaters, the only difference was mental application, its an area where i think the club should heavily invest in, particularly psychological

[CJohns]

Here it is!!! Bombers last Qtr heroics help keep the season alive, more importantly it helped find their identity again that was present for much of the year. Can they back it up this week? We discuss. Podcast link below.

[PipetoNul]

Your podcast was indicative of the situation that Essendon has found itself in. In normal times this win against Freo would be looked at as a rousing come from behind victory. At this particular point of time people are (sort of) shrugging their shoulders and are not sure of what the win means. LCUP personified that feel.

I think most people are rightly thinking in the long term about the club. Should we win tomorrow I still think the fans and membership should still “maintain the rage” and expect more consistancy from the club. We need to return to the ruthlessness of the Sheedy era.

[fire_and_irons]

Whilst I tend to agree, I doubt the the swannies coaching panel thought there was an unconditional effort by the players last week.