Lunchtime Catch Up Podcast- what is the clubs strategy?

Spikes resume is good enough to be senior coach. He’s much more qualified than his mates Hird and Solomon, has actually done an apprenticeship under multiple coaches, worked in development at 2 clubs, coached the Allies to their only under 18s championship and been promoted to senior assistant and caretaker senior coach at the Giants. Now working in an elite level coaching panel at the swans.

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Good show. It does seem to me that the post 2016 players are mentally fragile. The inconsistency of 23/24 seasons. The failure to show up this year. The fact that players would start well but then fail to capitilise on that talent. You have to wonder what the state of the club was in those years. Maybe Matthew Lloyd is right in that they became overly concerned about being a nice club. Even last year I thought the tenacity of the young players matched or exceeded the more experience players.

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Agree great pod. One of your best.

I think when you are talking about improved, stayed the the same and gone backwards you should also talk about levels or ceilings.

For example you can’t really talk about Merrett, Parish or Redman improving at this stage but you can talk about what level they are at. For example Merrett is having his usual excellent output.
Parish is at the same level as always which is just a good player. Same with Redman.

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Fair points mate

Good listen - thanks for your efforts. Really respect those that put so much time into creating content. Appreciate it.

Just my opinion and you may well not agree, but generally thought you guys could’ve been more pointed on Scott - you spoke about our appalling starts and the fact that half the team seem to be playing different game styles. These are fundamental coaching failings, we too often start with no intent and after 4 years we still don’t have a clear game style.

On tsatas would’ve liked to hear some commentary on players being held to different standards and the pitiful selection integrity. We are spectacularly mismanaging his young career.

But I acknowledge you may not agree.

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Thats fair. Tsatas is a tricky one for me. I just have this feeling while other players don’t defend as well as we would like… Elijah’s GPS data is more alarming. Almost like its a different standard of concerning. Thats just my hunch and nothing I have been told.

I do have legitimate concerns on Scott. No doubt about that. There is something about how this club teaches our players that just does not click.

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Thanks scooter.

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Agree that this is an issue.

if we’re talking about Bartel’s comments about our defensive set up… I just don’t understand how it isn’t addressed with individual players, considering how much time the players spend at the club, and how many coaches there are.

Also how much of this is based on development in juniors. Some coaches playing a hard man-on-man style, and other coaches using a zoning (guard space) defensive set up.

Also how much of this is based on a lot of these kids playing other sports like Basketball and Soccer, which ingrains different styles of defence….. especially zoning space, man on man, defending from D50, forward half press, chasing players with the ball, congesting the contest, etc.

But again, this all comes back to coaching.

Here it is!!! Youth shines against GWS…but there was a game to be won that sadly didn’t eventuate. Show below

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Watching Pommy and Fiona assess the game on YouTube.

Pommy has the best takes!

“Watching Merrett and Parish leading the midfield is like watching Home and Away. It was considered ‘cool’ a decade ago, but now it’s deadset sh*t house”.

:laughing:

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You seem to have the Brisbane game in your title but are up to your giants game

Thanks another good listen and agree there were some encouraging signs, but make no mistake a very disappointing loss. Appreciate the pod.

I fully appreciate where we are at, but it concerns me significantly how accepting we have become of losing and I see it across our fan base. It is very worrying, we’ve become oblivious to it, numb even.

Personally I just can’t fathom how anyone can accept 1 win in 22, regardless of where the list is at. That is indefensible as far as Brad goes.

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Agree

The younger players were gutted post game I’m glad that they are not accepting of losing or close enough is good enough that majority of the fan base has accepted was a very disappointing loss

I was the one noting on the pod how pleased i was that players were not accepting the loss. I didn’t feel like i was accepting of it. But there were clear positives outside of the poor result.

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I accepted it with open arms. I thought we were gonna do something stupid like win and cost ourselves a better pick. I really really don’t want to end up back in 13th-15th. I want us to stay exactly where we are.

These are the types of losses I want to see all year.

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I sense the same. If you’re going after high end talent…then bottoming out and getting a top 3 pick won’t harm that. I think Scott and Welsh knows what he is doing playing so many inexperienced players.

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Let’s see if picks setters over tsatas this week.

Personally wouldn’t inflate how smart Brad is but I’ve stamped his papers.

While I’m very positive about some of our youth, I’m terrified that there’ll be a lot of wasted potential if we stick with Scott.

He’s shown nothing that demonstrates he can develop youth.

Nothing?

Roberts, May, Caddy, Kako. Robey, Farrow, Sharp, Nguyen, Clarke are all stagnating under Scott?

Scott’s issue for me is towards senior players development and educating clear systems tbh. Its the youth progressing well that helps me get up in the morning. May not be Scott thats the key influence and development coaches around youth more but they seem to be mostly tracking ok and playing with the right spirit to my eyes.

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It helps when you have a group of kids who are driven to improve.

In the past, we’ve had a lot of players who were more interested in the glitz and glamour of an AFL lifestyle, than much interest of the clubs success.

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