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Sorry I don’t know how to embed that. It is an amusing clip about the media all saying the same thing about the media.

It’s far from a settled question, especially when with a republican Senate that couldn’t be relied on to restrain or apply the law to Trump even if he personally took a shaky elderly pee in Mueller’s face while Putin cheered him on and stuffed dollar notes into his g-string, and a newly-appointed Supreme Court judge whose main qualification seems to have been the firm conviction that the President is immune from any sort of legal restraint whatsoever, (unless the president is Clinton in which case it’s fine to impeach him over absolutely anything)

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I would prefer to present the idea to students that watching so much news is unnecessary.

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Creepy ■■■■ lawyer arrested on DV charges

Fake news

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/non-satirical-piece-mcconnell-stresses-virtues-bipartisanship?

It really should have been over before it began but hopefully that puts the final nail in his mirror-image-Trump posturing for the Democrat candidacy in 2020.

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Avenatti arrested on suspicion of Domestic Violence.

Says it’s fabricated and denies it, … and suspects it is some sort of payback.

cnbc.com

Stormy Daniels’ attorney Michael Avenatti arrested for alleged felony domestic violence

Christine Wa.ng (this fkn swear filter, … :roll_eyes:)

5-6 minutes

Stormy Daniels’ lawyer Michael Avenatti has been arrested on suspicion of domestic violence, the Los Angeles Police Department confirmed Wednesday.

LAPD Tweet

Avenatti’s arrest was on a felony allegation, multiple senior law enforcement officials told NBC News. The sources said they expect Avenatti to be booked into a local jail later Wednesday evening. The officials said officers in the West Los Angeles division took an incident report involving an allegation of domestic violence from an unidentified victim.

In a statement from his law office, Avenatti denied ever being “physically abusive,” and called the felony allegation against him “completely bogus.”

“I wish to thank the hard working men and woman of the LAPD for their professionalism they were only doing their jobs in light of the completely bogus allegations against me,” he said. “I have never been physically abusive in my life nor was I last night. Any accusations to the contrary are fabricated and meant to do harm to my reputation. I look forward to being fully exonerated.”

Avenatti’s wife, Lisa Storie-Avenatti, denied reports that the alleged domestic violence incident pertained to her in a statement to Buzzfeed from her lawyers.

“My client and I have reviewed the TMZ article alleging that my client, Lisa Storie-Avenatti, has been injured and that Michael Avenatti has been arrested as a result of some incident that occurred between them. This article is not true as it pertains to my client,” the statement said. “Ms. Storie-Avenatti was not subject to any such incident on Tuesday night. Further, she was not at Mr. Avenatti’s apartment on the date that this alleged incident occurred. My client states that there has never been domestic violence in her relationship with Michael and that she has never known Michael to be physically violent toward anyone.”

Avenatti has become one of President Donald Trump’s most vocal critics, gaining visibility by representing adult film star Stormy Daniels in her lawsuit against Trump over a 2016 hush money payment.

Daniels did not immediately respond to CNBC’s request for comment.

Amid his rising celebrity, Avenatti has also said he’s considered running for president against Trump in 2020. Avenatti, 47, has never held public office.

In August, Avenatti started The Fight PAC, a political action committee that he said would raise money to help fellow Democrats.

A representative for the PAC did not immediately respond to CNBC’s request for comment regarding Avenatti’s arrest.

The lawyer’s presidential ambitions were tested in October amid a slew of troubling headlines. A judged ruled that Avenatti would have to pay his former law partner $4.5 million in back pay. He was also harshly criticized for remarks he made in a Time magazine profile in which he said the 2020 Democratic presidential nominee should be a white man.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, also referred Avenatti and one of his clients, Julie Swetnick, to the FBI for criminal prosecution. Grassley alleged that Avenatti and Swetnick made “materially false statements” about Brett Kavanaugh during the Senate confirmation hearing for the then-Supreme Court nominee.

Earlier Wednesday, The Seattle Times reported that the California State Bar recently cleared Avenatti of claims of professional misconduct during the period when the lawyer ran Tully’s, a Seattle-based coffee chain.

— CNBC’s Dan Mangan and Christina Wilkie contributed reporting.

Of course he is. Dems don’t like him now either though so any claim he makes would have to include them because they don’t want him anywhere near them.

From my understanding Al Jazeera is a quality news organisation. I don’t see the equivalence with RT.

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Bloomberg is clearly setting himself up for a run for Democrat candidate for 2020.

Bloomberg is an idiot who lives in this sheltered-workshop billionaire fantasyland where there’s a huge silent majority of American voters just itching to rally behind the revolutionary policy program of privatisation, lowered company tax, free trade agreements everywhere, deregulation, and the obvious truth that everyone all over the world will joyfully embrace democracy if you just bomb them enough first. The 1990s are over dude.

If he ran for the Democratic nomination, he’d get a very fast wakeup call after scoring 0.7% in the first primary. After that, he’d either drop out good and fast, or run as an independent and hand the election to Trump and lose every single one of his friends. But I wouldn’t rule out option 2 if someone like Sanders wins it, Bloomberg seems just like the sort of dude with delusions of Ayn Randian grandeur who’d burn the world to save the USA from the howling doom of virulent socialist universal health care.

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Sooo are you a fan of the idea, or not?? :thinking:

TRICKLE DOWN

Speculation is mounting over whether Hillary Clinton will launch a bid for the White House in 2020.

In a recent op-ed, her former long-term adviser Mark Penn claimed “Hillary will run again” at the next federal US election.

“This new version of Mrs Clinton, when she runs for president in 2020, will come full circle — back to the universal-health-care-promoting progressive firebrand of 1994,” he wrote in The Wall Street Journal . “True to her name, Mrs Clinton will fight this out until the last dog dies. She won’t let a little thing like two stunning defeats stand in the way of her claim to the White House.”

Last month, Ms Clinton was asked whether she could consider another run for the top job.

Her response? “Well I’d like to be president. I think, hopefully, when we have a Democrat in the Oval Office in January of 2021, there’s going to be so much work to be done.”

“I mean we have confused everybody in the world, including ourselves,” she went on. “We have confused our friends and our enemies.

“They have no idea what the United States stands for, what we’re likely to do, what we think is important, so the work would be work that I feel very well prepared for having been at the Senate for eight years, having been a diplomat in the State Department, and it’s just going to be a lot of heavy lifting.”

It’s not exactly a “No, probably not”.

But a number of commentators on both sides of the political spectrum have pointed out that Ms Clinton launching a 2020 bid would be the worst possible thing for the Democrats to do.

“The bottom line is that most Americans have had enough of the Clintons, just as they have of the Bushes,” wrote The Australian ’s Washington correspondent Cameron Stewart.

“Hillary Clinton has had her chances — in 2008 when Barack Obama defeated her for the Democrat nomination and again in 2016 when Trump defeated her in the presidential election. Her problem is that she remains an unpopular and polarising figure.”

Similarly CNN’s Chris Cillizza said the Democrats should be pushing hard for a different candidate if they wanted a shot at beating Mr Trump in 2020.

“People didn’t like Trump. But they didn’t like Clinton any better. People didn’t trust Trump or think he was honest. But they felt the exact same way about Clinton,” he wrote.

If anything, Ms Clinton is in a worse position now than she was in 2016. According to a September Gallup poll, only 36 per cent of people have a favourable view of Ms Clinton, down seven points from where it stood just before the 2016 election.

“Democrats would do well to try a different approach than Clinton used in 2016, which, when boiled down, amounted to this: ‘I’m running against Donald Trump, and you’re certainly not going to vote for him, are you?’

“And they’d be well served to try a different candidate to deliver that different message — not someone who was rejected by voters in the last presidential election even though she was running against the weakest Republican nominee in modern memory.”

At the heart of the problem is this: Democrats can’t rely solely, as Ms Clinton did, on people voting for them simply because the alternative is Mr Trump.

Brian Fallon, Ms Clinton’s 2016 campaign press secretary, posted a series of tweets addressing this very point, amid rising speculation over Ms Clinton launching a 2020 bid.

“After 2016, no one thinks holding up a mirror to Trump — or engaging him tit for tat — is a winning strategy. However, sticking to a plan of ignoring Trump is a lot harder in a one-on-one matchup than for House challengers running individualised races,” he tweeted.

He said this was in part because it’s difficult to be more newsworthy than Mr Trump; the President epitomises the phrase “Any publicity is good publicity”.

“You can give a thoughtful speech documenting Trump’s many examples of acting racist. But at his evening rally, he will — with no supporting evidence — simply call you a racist back,” writes Fallon. “And the next day’s stories will read ‘Candidates trade barbs’.

“This is why I tend to think that the theory that ‘all Democrats need to do is nominate a bland, inoffensive guy and let Trump beat himself” is wrong. An uninteresting character is most susceptible to being sucked into the vortex because they cannot command attention on their own.”

But it was Kellyanne Conway, of all people, who arguably summed it up best.

Earlier this week the Counsellor to the President tweeted a link to a story about Ms Clinton’s potential bid with four choice words: “Dear God, please, yes.”

AKA the Modern Day equivalent of pissinn down the peoples backs and telling them it’s raining, …

Trump’s strategy is to maintain support in his base, ignore independents and Democrats. I can’t see this being a viable way to win 2020, but it did get a huge GOP turnout in the mid-terms. It’s just that the Dem turnout was even larger.

Trickle down should actually be called balloon up. That’s what really happens

Or re named as “farking bullshit policy that screws the people.”

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