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#8613

I’m expecting the speeches to become a weekly event.


#8614

Guess I will never understand you IT.

It was not a good speech at all, it was full of mistruths, poorly delivered and will be a PR nightmare.

Not even good for business


#8615

Yep. Was garbage.
And very poorly delivered garbage at that.


#8616

Does he still seem to believe coyotes at the border are the animal coyotes?


#8617

Manofort’s lawyers forgot to redact parts of their legal document.

The most interesting bit is where he admits colluding with a Russian spy…

The collusion angle was filled in some time back for anyone with a eye for the facts. This should (but won’t) swing the ‘no sign of collusion!’ Crowd.


#8618

Warning - Hilariously strong language


#8619

As usual the “collusion” crowd are wrong again and again and again and again.

Manafort passed on polling data to a UKRANIAN oligarch (via Kilimnik).

Still not a shred of evidence of collusion.


#8620

Kilimnik being a GRU operative, right?


#8621

Do Workers get back paid after the Government reopens or do they lose these $ for ever?


#8622

Mueller has vaguely claimed KK has “ties to Russian intelligence” but gives no detail. So really nothing to base it on at face value.


#8623

I’m pretty sure they get back pay.


#8624

Mueller is running an investigation and has rightly not made any claims at all.


#8625

Apparently in the past Congress has passed a bill to give Govt workers back pay but don’t know how it will play out this time hopefully a Dem controlled House would appropriate the funds


#8626

Casuals and contractors won’t get paid. Government employees will


#8627

That makes some sense as a breakdown. Casuals and contractors are unlikely to be actually working through the shutdown, employees more so. It is probably a big case of “it depends” across the spread of effected workers.


#8628

I think you’ll find that Mueller and his team have made claims via various court filings and I’m quoting one of them verbatim


#8629

And the ukrainians are Pro-Russia/Russia-affiliated.


#8630

Right…

So claims mad in a court of law that need to be proven or at least the defense has a chance to disprove.

You think they are baseless and vague.


#8631

Given these accusations were redacted, I think you’re incorrect that Mueller has publicly commented on them. He’d hardly have commented publicly on accusations that are being kept secret, hmm?


#8632

There’s no point discussing anything to do with Russia with FromOutside50. Anything except Russian benevolence is waved away as a conspiracy to him/her.